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News: John Wilkins files injunction against the NJCAA

I still don't get it! He was eligible to sign a LOI and didn't. He's still practicing with the #12 team in the NCJAA, so I would think he's facing some type of competition and it's better than playing rec ball.

So why not sign the LOI? Why the lawsuit? It seems like it could potentially open him up to further scrutiny by the NCJAA and likely uncover something the NCAA may have missed in determining his eligibility.

Just doesn't seem like a good move, but then again I guess I'm not in his shoes!!!!1
 
the NJCAA has severely limited his options, and signing a LOI will also severely limit his options. Why not accept that the kid is getting decent legal advice and doing the best he can?
 
It seems we already had this discussion.

Note the last paragraph- he decided against signing the LOI because of the lawsuit, and that makes sense to me. Why not just accept that he is getting advice from people who know better what he should do.
 
NSBF said:
I still don't get it! He was eligible to sign a LOI and didn't. He's still practicing with the #12 team in the NCJAA, so I would think he's facing some type of competition and it's better than playing rec ball.

So why not sign the LOI? Why the lawsuit? It seems like it could potentially open him up to further scrutiny by the NCJAA and likely uncover something the NCAA may have missed in determining his eligibility.

Just doesn't seem like a good move, but then again I guess I'm not in his shoes!!!!1
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By not signing the LOI it leaves a few more options open for discussion with the judge, plain and simple. Practicing and playing are two different things and if he is competitive he'll want to be playing real ball with refs and all. I would bet he has gone through all the scrutiny that could be uncovered. I know as a BU fan I just wish he would get his associate degree and sign but as person I'd like him to find out what and who is behind that injustice thrown to him by the NCJAA. If the NCJAA fights the injunction the court can order the NCJAA to release all of their documents, e-discovery, concerning this case which can open up the proverbial can of worms.:-o
 
I know its hard to do sometimes but i think in this case we really need to trust in the system. I hope for his future the NCAA makes the right decision.
I still think he will be a BRAVE someday I just hope all the hoopla doesnt set him up for high expectations. He is a good Div I player, I dont think hes the next phenom though.
 
Samd2 said:
I know its hard to do sometimes but i think in this case we really need to trust in the system. I hope for his future the NCAA makes the right decision.
I still think he will be a BRAVE someday I just hope all the hoopla doesnt set him up for high expectations. He is a good Div I player, I dont think hes the next phenom though.
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Its the NJCAA that is making the decision and I hope he is a Brave someday as well.....I rarely use the word Phenom.....but he is very very very good....
 
So if the njcaa says no, can he still play in the ncaa ? I just assumed they would be together on an issue like this. You know what they say about
ASSume though.
 
Samd2 said:
So if the njcaa says no, can he still play in the ncaa ? I just assumed they would be together on an issue like this. You know what they say about
ASSume though.
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The NCAA has already stated their decision and he will sit out the first 5 games at BU.....this is a different adventure...he is trying to get some Playing Time at the JC this season...
 
I think this was also covered before.. but I'm still unclear.
Under the 5 years to use 4 years of playing in.. if Wilkens never plays JC ball.. he still only has 3 years at BU. Is that right?
 
Samd2 said:
So if the njcaa says no, can he still play in the ncaa ? I just assumed they would be together on an issue like this. You know what they say about
ASSume though.
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Wilkins is not eligible to play at Bradley or any 4-year school unless he gets his junior college degree. The 5-game suspension only applies to his professionalism issue, not to his academic eligibility. Because he was declared a non-qualifier, he can never be eligible at Bradley unless he gets a degree at juco and is cleared by the NCAA clearinghouse again.
 
KillerB said:
Under the 5 years to use 4 years of playing in.. if Wilkens never plays JC ball.. he still only has 3 years at BU. Is that right?
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Wilkins enrolled in juco last January and will also burn an entire year this year at juco...so he will have already used most of two seasons even if he gets to BU in Fall 2010...thus he'd have 3 years left to complete 3 years of college eligibility.

But there is one oddball fact....when BU finishes their 2012-2013 season, Wilkins might appeal and ask the NCAA to grant him the opportunity to play.
it's a longshot, but...he would have only used 3 years of athletic eligibility, and only 4.5 years of "ticking clock" since he enrolled at juco midyear...
I know it's a 1 in a million, but you could ask...
 
tornado said:
the NJCAA has severely limited his options, and signing a LOI will also severely limit his options. Why not accept that the kid is getting decent legal advice and doing the best he can?
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Why automatically assume that the legal advice he is getting is decent?

Also, why wait so long before filing for the injunction? Why didn't his legal team file for it right after the NJCAA issued its ruling?
 
Because we have sources that report that he is, rather than just guesses like others here have.

and anyway...what kind of attitude is that...?
If I lived by the credo...
"Why automatically assume.."
then I guess I would and could doubt every single thing you say or anyone anywhere says...right?

Why automatically assume the President knows what he's doing, and why automatically assume that any of the top BCS schools like Duke, UNC, Kansas, have a clue what they are doing??
 
DoubleJayAlum said:
Why automatically assume that the legal advice he is getting is decent?

Also, why wait so long before filing for the injunction? Why didn't his legal team file for it right after the NJCAA issued its ruling?
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Who said they didn't? It's my understanding from separate sources that this injunction was filed very quickly after the NJCAA's final ruling on this last appeal. Just because it is only now being reported by the PJ Star doesn't mean they just filed it (I knew about this more than a week and a half ago). And even you know that a legal filing can't be done instantaneously. John Wilkins did not have a lawyer until after the final NJCAA ruling that denied his last appeal, as he expected a different outcome (since the NCJAA had never banned anyone before for the entire season for such an issue). So he had to first consult with his coach and family, then seek out and consult with a lawyer who has experiance in this area, then consider his options and their costs, and then prepare the request for the injunction and then file it. All that takes time. Anyone who has ever dealt with the legal system in our country surely knows that nothing happens quickly. Every incentive lawyers and judges have is to draw out legal cases for the longest possible time periods.

Why are there so many who immediately question that someone must have screwed up every time something like this happens?
 
Da Coach said:
Who said they didn't? It's my understanding from separate sources that this injunction was filed very quickly after the NJCAA's final ruling on this last appeal. Just because it is only now being reported by the PJ Star doesn't mean they just filed it (I knew about this more than a week and a half ago). And even you know that a legal filing can't be done instantaneously. John Wilkins did not have a lawyer until after the final NJCAA ruling that denied his last appeal, as he expected a different outcome (since the NCJAA had never banned anyone before for the entire season for such an issue). So he had to first consult with his coach and family, then seek out and consult with a lawyer who has experiance in this area, then consider his options and their costs, and then prepare the request for the injunction and then file it. All that takes time. Anyone who has ever dealt with the legal system in our country surely knows that nothing happens quickly.
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Well, if we believe what we are told, he apparently already had lawyers at the time of the LOI signing period since those lawyers advised him to not sign an LOI.

By the way, I agree that legal cases are not resolved quickly. I completely disagree that injunction actions are not filed quickly. In fact, one of the main components of an injunction action is the fact that the alleged action is causing immediate harm and needs to be corrected before further harm is caused.
 
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