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Andrew Warren...

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had corrective surgery on his foot today according to Lee Hall news 25....should be ready for the season! :o
 
No. Unfortunately, the NCAA only allows 1 redshirt season, and only allows 5 years to complete an athlete's 4 seasons of eligibility. So if he missed another season, it would be lost for good.

The NCAA does allow athletes to appeal for a waiver of these rules, and in rare cases they have allowed an extra year (a 6th year) to complete their eligibility. Usually it is allowed in cases when 2 different injuries occurred.

But Andrew will be OK for next season.
 
just wondering

just wondering

If they knew he was going need surgery on the foot, how come it took this long to have it.
Was he testing it out?
Just curious.
 
Exactly my thoughts. Why not right after they declared he was redshirting instead of waiting this long? Now he has to spend his summer recovering rather than preparing. I don't understand administration sometimes.
 
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d dub said:
If they knew he was going need surgery on the foot, how come it took this long to have it.
Was he testing it out?
Just curious.
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d dub...I am not intimately familiar with Warren's case, but I do know some people who have had similar surgery, so I will take a crack at answering this...

--first, surgery ALWAYS has risks, especially unpredictable risks such as infection, and sometimes surgery goes bad....so unless it is 100% mandatory, it is always nice to see if you can get the kid healed without surgery.
MOST fractures can and DO heal without surgery, and remember, Andrew had already had surgery ONCE, so a repeat surgery is always a bit more complicated as you have to encounter the anatomical changes from the prior surgery and the scar tissue.

--second..how do you know they "knew" he was going to need another surgery on his foot?
I have spoken to people about Andrew's foot, including I have spoken to Andrew himself...even as recently as the past few weeks, and I can assure you that NOBODY was planning on more surgery until recently, so that suggests something had perhaps also changed recently...requiring a recent change or amending of the plans and thus possibly he now had to reconsider a repeat surgery.

--Andrew has an entire team of the very best orthopedic surgeons on his case. They have examined him, done xrays and MRI's and even consulted via the web with other top orthopedic guys in the entire nation to come up with a plan that's best for Andrew.
I cannot imagine calling into question the care he is getting.........least of all since we simply don't know all the details.
 
Bradleyguy10 said:
Exactly my thoughts. Why not right after they declared he was redshirting instead of waiting this long? Now he has to spend his summer recovering rather than preparing. I don't understand administration sometimes.
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I have to ask the same questions. Why didn't this 'corrective' surgery occur after he had the pin put in, and the pin failed? It sounds like the pin failed, as this surgery was 'corrective' due to 'complications' that had developed in the area, i.e. the bone kept breaking around the pin which was supposed to stabilize it. Doesn't putting in a pin require surgery? Essentially, this is the 2nd foot operation he's had in the last 8 months, and that's a major red flag to me. Hoping for the best, expecting the worst. Not good.
 
BradleyBrave said:
I have to ask the same questions..
the pin failed? ..
It sounds like the pin failed..
this is the 2nd foot operation he's had in the last 8 months...
that's a major red flag to me...
expecting the worst...
Not good.
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BB, that's an awful lotta negative there.....I am not sure the sky is falling yet...
Just maybe (I do not know) all he had done was have the pin removed which is done all the time....
 
tornado said:
BB, that's an awful lotta negative there.....I am not sure the sky is falling yet...
Just maybe (I do not know) all he had done was have the pin removed which is done all the time....
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Negative? No. Not in the least. Worried? Absolutely. Big difference.

Surgery is never good, and 2 surgeries on the same foot in 8 months is not good at all. I have no doubt that they're trying to do what is best for his career and for his long term health, but I personally have a hard time having much confidence in a healthy foot for an entire season with everything that has taken place thus far.

If we recall, everything was supposed to be fine, and he was supposed to be ready for the home opener against UIC. Then it was the conference season. Then there was a setback. Then he was getting better and was practicing. Then there was another setback. Now there's another surgery. The pattern doesn't make me very confident.

Hopefully at this time next year we're discussing him as a potential preseason POY after a stellar junior campaign, and this is all forgotten.
 
BradleyBrave said:
I have to ask the same questions. Why didn't this 'corrective' surgery occur after he had the pin put in, and the pin failed? It sounds like the pin failed, as this surgery was 'corrective' due to 'complications' that had developed in the area, i.e. the bone kept breaking around the pin which was supposed to stabilize it. Doesn't putting in a pin require surgery? Essentially, this is the 2nd foot operation he's had in the last 8 months, and that's a major red flag to me. Hoping for the best, expecting the worst. Not good.
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The pin (it was actually a screw) is to help the fracture heal, which it did. But some athletes will still have pain in the bone because the pin is solid, while the rest of the bone flexes slightly with running and jumping. That causes stress to be concentrated at the end of the screw/pin.

So my guess is that this was simply a scheduled procedure to remove the screw now that everything is healed, and allow the bone to get back more to normal and for the pain to resolve.
 
I think having this done is good news because he continued to have problems after his 1st surgery , getting this done now should give him a better chance to get fully healed by mid August.
 
Da Coach said:
No. Unfortunately, the NCAA only allows 1 redshirt season, and only allows 5 years to complete an athlete's 4 seasons of eligibility. So if he missed another season, it would be lost for good.

The NCAA does allow athletes to appeal for a waiver of these rules, and in rare cases they have allowed an extra year (a 6th year) to complete their eligibility. Usually it is allowed in cases when 2 different injuries occurred.

But Andrew will be OK for next season.
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That's what I was referring to, a 6th year.
 
I am just going to go into this upcoming year just assuming something bad will happen with andrew or another star player. It seems liike it has happened every year and I've had high expectations so this might be the way to go
 
I am hearing it was pretty much a situation like I described above--


It was to remove the screw now that everything is healed, and allow the bone to get back more to normal and for the pain to resolve.
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Funny story...I was speaking with one of the surgical techs that was in the room for AW's surgery.

I guess the screw was a phillips head and alls they had were flat head screw drivers.....

I HATE when that happens. :)




They eventually found the other tool box and went forward smoothly from there...:)
 
dogsrus said:
Funny story...I was speaking with one of the surgical techs that was in the room for AW's surgery.

I guess the screw was a phillips head and alls they had were flat head screw drivers.....

I HATE when that happens. :)




They eventually found the other tool box and went forward smoothly from there...:)
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Ha dog, did they have to use WD-40 or was it a easy one? JK:lol: I am hoping the best for AW, as I am with BB, this is not going the way we were told or the way we would like:!:
 
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