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Missouri Valley Conference Standings - 2/13/08 with tiebreakers

SaintLouBrave22 said:
Just realized what I typed...

I meant "from" his Freshman to Sophomore seasons....

It just seemed to me that as he lost a little faith in his shot, our coach lost more...

seems to be happening to many of our guys w/o the #22


I just hate to see talent wasted behind a guy that on any team let alone a good one who is no better than an average role player...


Not only that, like I stated prior, a decent coach would figure out how to get DC, Tyrone, and Will minutes, and not only that, but minutes where they would be put in a position to succeed...

Look at Creighton...no they may not have the most talent this year, and they won't win the conference either, but they ALWAYS put themselves in position to make a run at the tournament title...and you know why? All of their players are fresh enough to play 3 in 3 because of the minutes they play....no one is so worn out by March that they have no legs (ala Will last yr) and not only that, but everyone has played some role on their team so they know they can count on all 12 playing some minutes if needed come tournament time...

At this point, 1) our guards already have no legs and 2) could we really count on positive results if we had to play DC or Tyrone many minutes come tournament time?

After what they have played lately, I don't see that happening!


And please, for the love of God, quit running the 4-guard offense and the weave....

Remember what got you to the Sweet 16 Jimmy!
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Anyone who was in St. Louis and Detroit in 2006 will tell you that those games were won with "complete domination" around the basket (POB, Cellus, Boogie, JJ). We made guys like Paul Miller, Dane Watts, Aaron Gray, Sasha Kaun, and Levon Kendall look like they were standing still.

If you think that last years players or MS, TW, SS, and RA this year could duplicate that type of play, great. Maybe we should have played that style last year and this year.

I don't know for sure but I think JL did the best job he could have with the players he had last year and felt like esp. with Ruff and JC returning that the same stratagy should continue this season.

I like JL, going into this season would have hung my hat on Ruff, JC, and co. rather than MS, SS and the newbie bigs.
 
I will post this in a little bit. I made the drive down to Peoria to see the game today (great one!) and haven't really been back to computer until just now. Expect an update on the tiebreakers by 12:30 at the latest!

Thanks for asking, I'm glad my work on this is appreciated! :D
 
BUBraves2006 said:
Thanks for asking, I'm glad my work on this is appreciated! :D
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VERY MUCH SO!!!!!
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If Wichita State could have beaten SIU today, that really would have made the middle of the Valley extraordinarily interesting. Instead, now the Salukis (coupled with Ill. State's loss) have a shot at second. Honestly, I still believe the Redbirds will finish second, being a game up on SIU and the Salukis still having to come to Peoria.

If you want any additional information about the tiebreakers or have any questions, let me know.

Here they are as of 2/16/08...
 

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Illinois State still has one game left vs. Creighton and also has to play AT SIU,
where very few Valley teams win. I think this means even BU has a remote shot at catching ISU for a piece of 2nd place.
 
It is calculated using a complex formula that the MVC employs of awarding points based on your wins against the teams ahead of you and behind you in the standings.
The "MAX" is how much you could get had you beaten all the other teams, but it is a bit irrelevant, really. Of course the last place team actually has the biggest "MAX" since they have more teams above them in the standing in which to rack up points.

Here is the formula
http://www.mvc-sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=7600&KEY=&ATCLID=274386&SPID=2901&SPSID=41239
 
With 3 games left these are my projections:
1)Drake
2)Ill.State
3)SIU
4)Creighton
5)BU
6)Indiana St.
7)UNI
8 )Missouri St.
9)Wichita St.
10) Evansville
 
tornado said:
It is calculated using a complex formula that the MVC employs of awarding points based on your wins against the teams ahead of you and behind you in the standings.
The "MAX" is how much you could get had you beaten all the other teams, but it is a bit irrelevant, really. Of course the last place team actually has the biggest "MAX" since they have more teams above them in the standing in which to rack up points.

Here is the formula
http://www.mvc-sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=7600&KEY=&ATCLID=274386&SPID=2901&SPSID=41239
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That's a good explanation. The only reason I include it really is to make sure my spreadsheet is working properly. The slightest little change can throw the whole thing off with how complicated it is ...

Barring any big upsets (Any of the upper tier teams losing at home), the biggest remaining games (for seeding, anyway) will be Bradley at Creighton and Indiana State at UNI.
 
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