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2008 BU committment- Darian Norris - 5'11

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  • #31
    Two thoughts:

    1. Get the best player you can. Every time.
    2. JL must know something we do not.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by mrcoachdude View Post
      Two thoughts:

      1. Get the best player you can. Every time.
      2. JL must know something we do not.

      #1 is wrong based upon needs. #2 I hope is right. (I am not trying to start an argument)

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      • #33
        Originally posted by mrcoachdude View Post
        Two thoughts:

        1. Get the best player you can. Every time.
        2. JL must know something we do not.
        Strongly believe point 2 is correct here.... it would explain a lot of things....
        Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

        ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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        • #34
          Originally posted by georgethedog View Post
          #1 is wrong based upon needs. #2 I hope is right. (I am not trying to start an argument)
          George...needs figure in the decision...but if you are getting the best available...needs will be filled......
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          • #35
            Originally posted by mrcoachdude View Post
            George...needs figure in the decision...but if you are getting the best available...needs will be filled......
            I disagree. If you have no bigs, and the best players available are 5'10" guards, you're not really helping your situation that much. But, I don't think our needs are that great with this last ride, so I am of the mindset of the best available 4 year player.
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            • #36
              Key being 4 year player, imo

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              • #37
                Originally posted by BradleyBrave View Post
                I disagree. If you have no bigs, and the best players available are 5'10" guards, you're not really helping your situation that much. But, I don't think our needs are that great with this last ride, so I am of the mindset of the best available 4 year player.
                Making it to complicated here...I was trying to say in simple terms...get the best you can...if we had no bigs...would we be looking at smalls? I doubt it....I know its not that simple...but right now lets get the best player we can.....
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                • #38
                  i personally will be extremely disappointed if we use our last scholie on a 6'0 guard.

                  If we do, I wonder what Jim Les sees in our big men that gives him the confidence to use the last one on a guard. It didnt seem like he had any confidence in them all season considering:

                  Austin- didnt play at all the first half of the year, played decent in the middle of the season, then didnt play at all again at the end of the season. No confidence by Jim there it doesnt seem like

                  Singh- Dont have the stats with me but I dont think Sam even played in about 1/4 of the games this year. I know the kid has been hurt but I dont think he can dunk and he is 6'9. Pretty smart player, nice kid, however if I had the power to take his scholie away I would

                  Egolf- played early in the year and didnt show much. Spends way to much time behind the 3 point line considering he didnt make one all year. I know he got hurt as well but when he came back Jim didnt show much confidence in playing him any major minutes. Still another year away IMO

                  Collins- I dont think anyone know what Jim acually thinks of Collins. Played pretty well in the begininig of the year, a little slow on D and a little weak on O but still played well enough to get some time IMO. Then JL sits him for a 1/2 a season. Then JL decides to play him towards the end of the season and he looks the best he has all year. It seems like finally Jim has confidence in Collins but then again I though he did early in the year before he didnt play again for 10 games straight.

                  Thompson- I havent been to practice to watch this kid play but I would think JL has to believe that this kid will be an impact player next year with Collins if he uses the last scholie on another guard. If that is the case we can use the 4-guard lineup again with either Collins/Thompson starting at the 5, Wilson at the 4, and Warren Maniscalco and either one of the new JUCO transfers.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by mrcoachdude View Post
                    George...needs figure in the decision...but if you are getting the best available...needs will be filled......
                    Don't think that's true.

                    USC got OJ Mayo (one of the best players out there) didn't really help them out in the tournament because they were not as well rounded.

                    IMO...a well rounded team beats a superstar any day of the week.
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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by georgethedog View Post
                      I still think that Coach Les would fill a roster with PGs if he could get away with it. Everything else being equal (talent, game knowledge, etc.) Coach Les would choose to play a guard over a big. You may not like it (and I am may be the only one who thinks this) but that is my opinion.
                      I understand your point, but this is a bit overstated. Jim Les could play all guards any time, but he never does it. He knows there has to be some size and inside players on the floor. But if he feels he has a better team on the floor with 3 guards, then that's his job to do it.

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                      • #41
                        Yeah, I hear the best available player argument and I would agree that Darian sounds like a very good player...but my concern is that without some size joining the team this year we will be left with two scholarship players over 6-5 returning in 2009-10. Those two would be AT and WE. (We would lose SS, RA, DC, TW (only sort of a big and 6-5)). So, it would leave us in a position where we would need to recruit a bunch of bigs and probably at least a couple of JUCO bigs next year. Why ? It is hard to find players that can contribute as Freshman but it is really hard to find kids who are physically developed enough to contribute at the 4/5 as a Freshman-it happens but not often.
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by mrcoachdude View Post
                          Two thoughts:

                          1. Get the best player you can. Every time.
                          2. JL must know something we do not.

                          #2 is obvious...but what do you think he know SPECIFICALLY that we do not in this case....

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by dogsrus View Post
                            #2 is obvious...but what do you think he know SPECIFICALLY that we do not in this case....
                            all we have to do is look back at the past couple of years for that answer.
                            Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

                            ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by BUconnorD View Post
                              Don't think that's true.

                              USC got OJ Mayo (one of the best players out there) didn't really help them out in the tournament because they were not as well rounded.

                              IMO...a well rounded team beats a superstar any day of the week.
                              Next time out I will give a dissertation on what I was trying to say......I am not a man of many words

                              simply put.....input all information into the equation (size,handles,shot,needs,athleticism etc...) and get the best player available
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by BUconnorD View Post
                                IMO...a well rounded team beats a superstar any day of the week.
                                Larry Bird's Sycs went 33-1.

                                Billy Packer kept saying NO WAY Indy St makes it. Bill Hodges told Billy Packer on national tv he owed him and Indy St an apology when they made it to the Championship.

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