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he is a bit taller than and slightly more athletic than Justin Dehm....who has done quite well at Furman..
I know that's not the top level of D-I, but Justin has career averages of 10 ppg, 2.5 apg, 36% 3pt shooting and will easily end his career with around 1200 pts.
I follow the recruting trail huge down here in Southern Illinois/St. Louis but I will say that alot of the kids from Northern Illinois I think are overrated period. Just because they play tough competition does not mean it translates to the college game......especially unathletic white boys......All I have to say is kevin stineman from SIUe.....highly rated but nothing but a playground balla!
I follow the recruting trail huge down here in Southern Illinois/St. Louis but I will say that alot of the kids from Northern Illinois I think are overrated period. Just because they play tough competition does not mean it translates to the college game......especially unathletic white boys......All I have to say is kevin stineman from SIUe.....highly rated but nothing but a playground balla!
Not sure I agree with this.
Where was Kevin Stineman ever rated highly? Some rankings did not have him in the top 40 kids in Illinois in 2008. D1 schools all passed on him because of his lack of quickness and lack of athleticism.
Earned three varsity letters in basketball at Stevenson High School...Selected in 2007 to the Sears Supersectional All Conference team, All-Area, All-Tournament teams in Illinois 2A State Finals...Stevenson High School Team Most Valuable Player...Selected to the All American Showcase First team...All Star at the Double Pump & Hoop Mountain Camps...Reebok Regional Combine selection...Rivals.com 2008 Illinois Top 25...Played with the Rising Stars helping them to a national Top 20 ranking and a playmakers prep classic championship in 2007
That is from his Bio at SIUe.......I am just saying that sometimes recruiting buzz and stuff doesn't mean jack......I rem in 2000 I attended a small college in St. Louis (DIII Maryville Univ at the time) and there was a guy named Henry Shannon that went there......This guy had all the recruiting buzz and mind you he was no dumbie......He ended up straight up killing it......So we shall see....
if you are trying to make the claim that all the unathletic white boys in the Bloomington and Peoria area get hyped.....then that comes as quite a shock to me......extremely few ever get their names mentioned...
Most people who have seen him know Hayden Hoerdemann is a very athletic kid who can play 3 or 4 different sports but has chosen to concentrate on soccer and basketball.
He is not only the best soccer and best basketball player at his school - but I would stick my neck out and say he's probably the best basketball player and soccer player in the Bloomington area.
Can you give a couple examples of kids from the southern end of the state that were overlooked and turned out to be stars?
...the few that have been hyped coming out of the southern part of Illinois like Manual Cass, Josh Tabb, Dustin Maguire.....
and more recently Brett Thompson (some labelled him a Top 10 big man nationally!), Kyle Cassity, Kenny Leverette...have failed to shock our senses so far...
I am fighting the urge to go "Pam Adams" on Cougarcrazy82 over his "unathletic white boy" rant.
But upon further review, I get sooo sick and tired of PA's constant "white racism" rants in the PJS, I would be a hypocrite to sound off in the opposite direction.
Cougarcrazy82, if we accept your opinion 'unathletic white boys' are especially overrated as potential college bb players, would you agree that, based on the recent spate of criminal activity by certain college basketball (and football) players that ....... are especially ......Nope, not going there....
Ok folks I never said that there were "overlooked" stars in the south.....I would have to go along with the fact that because the population is heavily favored toward the north that competition is better so players stand out more......But that does not mean it always translates to the college game (especially D-I).......Also, you can call me a rascist I am just stating the facts........look at the makeup of most Division I schools starting lineups and they are heavily laden with minority players...........And you can gang up on me all you want I like BU and I follow this site religiously so just because my screen name isnt BU related does not mean anything......
You are welcome here...in fact, the single thing I have said the most about recruit rankings...is that ALL the kids south of Joliet or west of Elgin get overlooked and underhyped, while many of those in the Chicago area are way overhyped...
No place do you find more names that were rated TOP 10 in the state then fizzled out and were never heard from again...
Ok folks I never said that there were "overlooked" stars in the south.....I would have to go along with the fact that because the population is heavily favored toward the north that competition is better so players stand out more......But that does not mean it always translates to the college game (especially D-I).......Also, you can call me a rascist I am just stating the facts........look at the makeup of most Division I schools starting lineups and they are heavily laden with minority players...........And you can gang up on me all you want I like BU and I follow this site religiously so just because my screen name isnt BU related does not mean anything......
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