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    Since I don't see a category that addresses these issues, I figured "General Sports discussions" is the closest appropriate one.

    I'd like all the moderators to at least give me the courtesy of reading this and hopefully addressing the exact elements that must exist to remove a post, because quite frankly, it looks as if it's being done quite arbitrarily and capriciously.

    The fact that this board was much more lenient than the PJStar and didn't seem to have the excessive restrictions and reckless moderators was a big reason why I switched here full-time.

    I'm not going to say that moderating is easy, but at the same time, I think it's fair to say that the moderators should be held to the same standard or be tolerant of opposing/conflicting viewpoints. I hope that's not what's happening with the decision to delete some posts. In an argument/discussion/etc., which is exactly what the Ruffin situation has sparked here on the board, pointing out inconsistencies in others' accounts or positions, as long as it's done in a proper manner, should not be restricted.

    In closing, I'd just like the moderators to be much more judicious and impartial when making the decision to delete posts.
    A real fan celebrates the successes, but also acknowledges the failures of his team.

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    Originally posted by BU ICEMAN View Post
    Since I don't see a category that addresses these issues, I figured "General Sports discussions" is the closest appropriate one.

    I'd like all the moderators to at least give me the courtesy of reading this and hopefully addressing the exact elements that must exist to remove a post, because quite frankly, it looks as if it's being done quite arbitrarily and capriciously.

    The fact that this board was much more lenient than the PJStar and didn't seem to have the excessive restrictions and reckless moderators was a big reason why I switched here full-time.

    I'm not going to say that moderating is easy, but at the same time, I think it's fair to say that the moderators should be held to the same standard or be tolerant of opposing/conflicting viewpoints. I hope that's not what's happening with the decision to delete some posts. In an argument/discussion/etc., which is exactly what the Ruffin situation has sparked here on the board, pointing out inconsistencies in others' accounts or positions, as long as it's done in a proper manner, should not be restricted.

    In closing, I'd just like the moderators to be much more judicious and impartial when making the decision to delete posts.
    The Ruffin story presented some unique concerns about moderating. We asked very early Saturday that we not get into speculation about all the possible guilty/innocent scenarios, or make comments that were unfair to Ruffin, or to the supposed victim.

    We have a great group of dedicated moderators who do a great job. We also do not hide who our moderators are, like some other forums.
    If you want to know, just click on the Members link across the top black banner, then click on the Posts category across the top of the list and scroll down. The moderators are all noted right under the members' names.

    Most questions about moderating can be answered by taking a minute to read the Rules for Posting--


    You suggest the moderating is arbitrary and capricious. But those seem like 2 mutually exclusive terms to me.
    I agree that the moderating is arbitrary. The top definition here says "depending on individual discretion (as of a judge) and not fixed by law"--http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/arbitrary

    I think that does pretty much describe what the mods do. They simply use their own discretion based on the general set of rules that we have set for the site.

    But I can assure you that there is nothing capricious about the moderating, and I would like to see some example of what would make you think that. PM to me, but do not post here. This is the only discussion we will allow publically about the moderating.
    Here is the definition of capricious--
    governed or characterized by caprice : impulsive, unpredictable… See the full definition

    a sudden, impulsive, and seemingly unmotivated notion or action; a sudden usually unpredictable condition, change, or series of changes; a disposition to do things impulsively… See the full definition


    There is nothing whimsical about the moderating.

    And finally, I will say that the moderating will not change. I am sorry if you don't like it. We will not be held to some standard that you or any poster demands. If we allowed that can you imagine that every poster might demand their own moderating standards? The standards are what they are. Every site sets their own standards, and ours are set, and publically posted.

    As I have said many times, this is not a free speech issue. I am sorry if you thought it was.
    Nobody has the right to come here and demand to be heard. Nobody has the right to demand that we accept somebody else's standards. We are under no obligation to allow for opposing/conflicting viewpoints. No internet site is, and I believe you will find the moderating at most sites to be stricter than we are here.
    Consider this forum no different than if you were at a gathering of people at somebody's home. You are free to discuss whatever you want, but the host has every right to set the limits for speech and decorum and ask people to leave if they do not abide.

    Again, this is all the discussion we will allow regarding the moderating. If anyone has any other issue with it, feel free to PM any moderator, or me (the administrator). Thanks.

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