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  • #61
    Anyone else find it odd to have Rhodes pitching against the team that's paying over 90% of his salary.....with the game on the line?
    ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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    • #62
      Originally posted by shaunguth View Post
      Anyone else find it odd to have Rhodes pitching against the team that's paying over 90% of his salary.....with the game on the line?
      anyone find it odd that when you need a strike out (2nd 3rd no out) you take Motte out?

      I mean the first hit was a ****ing blooper...

      Lynn can strike guys out....but still...

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      • #63
        Originally posted by amckillip View Post

        Rasmus? Craig? Freese? Jay? What team have you been watching? The Cardinals very much have been relying on talent they have brought up. I don't know what you expect from a farm system, but they don't produce all-stars every year. The only team who has had any more considerably more production from their home-grown players (ya know, excluding Pujols and Molina, two All-Stars) is the Rays, and they are the exception not the rule. Sure some of people come and go via trades etc. but the Cards consitently use and thrive on homegrown talent.

        The Cardinals have not been good in producing their own good hitters. Like I said, they have had a hard time developing hitters over the years. Funny that you mention all star players. Pujols and Molina are the ONLY all star players St Louis has developed in the past 14 years. And only Pujols can hit. Molina, despite his improvement this season, has been an all star because he can catch and throw out runners. Go back another 6 years and you will only find 2 more players, Lankford and Pagnozzi who the Cardinals developed. And again Pagnozzi, a catcher, was known more for his defense. So, really, in the past 20 years the Cardinals have produced 2 all star hitters. Im sorry but that is not consistently developing home grown talent into good hitters. Just mainly "fill in" hitters. 12 of the 16 different all star players (not pitchers) since 1991 came from somewhere else. They are not the Yankees but most of their key players come from other organizations.

        Freese I love and think he could be the next home grown all star. Craig has great potential. Jay I think is just ok and at best is a number 3 or 4 outfielder. Rasmus had all the tools to be great but also has way to much baggage. He was terrible after the trade. 3 of these guys came in the same draft (2006) so maybe the future will be better than the past.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by BuB View Post
          The Cardinals have not been good in producing their own good hitters. Like I said, they have had a hard time developing hitters over the years. Funny that you mention all star players. Pujols and Molina are the ONLY all star players St Louis has developed in the past 14 years. And only Pujols can hit. Molina, despite his improvement this season, has been an all star because he can catch and throw out runners. Go back another 6 years and you will only find 2 more players, Lankford and Pagnozzi who the Cardinals developed. And again Pagnozzi, a catcher, was known more for his defense. So, really, in the past 20 years the Cardinals have produced 2 all star hitters. Im sorry but that is not consistently developing home grown talent into good hitters. Just mainly "fill in" hitters. 12 of the 16 different all star players (not pitchers) since 1991 came from somewhere else. They are not the Yankees but most of their key players come from other organizations.

          Freese I love and think he could be the next home grown all star. Craig has great potential. Jay I think is just ok and at best is a number 3 or 4 outfielder. Rasmus had all the tools to be great but also has way to much baggage. He was terrible after the trade. 3 of these guys came in the same draft (2006) so maybe the future will be better than the past.
          good points.......but the Cardinals are in the World Series....so who is complaining......

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          • #65
            Texas does the job.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Bradleyguy10 View Post
              Texas does the job.
              Texas is playing well, but it also seems the cards used up a bunch of run production in that blow out...last night was atrocious with men in scoring position...here is hoping for a game 7!
              Peoria Toyota Scion

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