Bad day in central illinois news

[ChewaBrave]

Karl Marx's system hasn't exactly shown any record of success anywhere, has it?

Marx's system is irrelevant. His description of the possible perils of capitalism were fairly accurate though.

[Da Coach]

I agree there needs to be restraints on capitalism, which there are. But nobody denies that it is the system that leads most often to prosperity, and progress. 99% of all patents, industrial advancements, new medicines and medical breakthroughs, and new developments that benefit mankind come from capitalist societies.
Profit is a wonderful incentive. The good of the state (Marx's idea) is not.

[ChewaBrave]

I agree there needs to be restraints on capitalism, which there are. But nobody denies that it is the system that leads most often to prosperity, and progress. 99% of all patents, industrial advancements, new medicines and medical breakthroughs, and new developments that benefit mankind come from capitalist societies.
Profit is a wonderful incentive. The good of the state (Marx's idea) is not.

I don't think anyone here is advocating marxism.

[sousaman2089]

Karl Marx's system hasn't exactly shown any record of success anywhere, has it?

The closest the Marxian ideal came to working is when 1,000 or so Jews had to hide in the woods from Nazis during WWII. Everything was split up with everyone. They lived in this Marxian society for a couple of years until the war was over. There's a slightly watchable Daniel Craig movie that's slightly based on it but w/e.

This one act of survival is the only time Marxian ideals ever worked, so yeah, Marx society would never work.

But I believe in the invisible hand more then anything when it comes to economics. Thinking that a President can control the invisible hand is ridiculous, but believing that a series of Presidents (Bush/Clinton/Bush/Obama) not handling the economy in a consistent or good way could alter the invisible hand is very possible. There or 100,000s of jobs out there in America, but most Americans don't have the required training.

That is the biggest fault of our government over the past 20 years or so. Our education system doesn't prepare the kids for those kind of skilled jobs and the laws/taxes/expansion of government started by Bush and continued by Obama scare away most companies from wanting to be here.

There's a reason Michael Corleone went to Cuba in The Godfather Part II.
Of course, Castro soon put a stop to that.

[ChewaBrave]

It does seem as though you have to look dreadfully hard to find good news these days. So sad - nice work news outlets.

[SFP]

It does seem as though you have to look dreadfully hard to find good news these days. So sad - nice work news outlets.

The economy out here in Silicon Valley is doing very well. The economy is based on rewarding new ideas, hard work, the global economy and a talent pool of highly educated and skilled workers. The little there was of manufacturing has pretty much dried up. Our economy, as a nation, will be very regional for the foreseeable future. I recommend that graduates head out to these hubs depending on their major. You may struggle a bit but you'll be in a good position for the future. Central Illinois is not the future unfortunately.

[ChewaBrave]

All good points. I might suggest people be open to going even further. There are a lot of opportunities in emerging markets.

[sousaman2089]

The economy out here in Silicon Valley is doing very well.

I'm moving to San Francisco ASAP.....after I graduate.

[SFP]

All good points. I might suggest people be open to going even further. There are a lot of opportunities in emerging markets.

There are some great opportunities for highly skilled workers in emerging markets but you need to go beyond just a BS for someone to hand you over a work VISA. Learn a few languages and diversify your skills and anything is possible with the right attitude. Americans are still known for their work ethic and ingenuity. There is also the opportunity to take an American based cultural business to an emerging market and make a great living.

[Braves4Life]

Americans are still known for their work ethic.....

Really? Not sure I agree with that part of your statement SFP. I think the American work ethic is part of the reason America is in trouble right now.

Read this: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-0...er-erodes.html

[SFP]

Really? Not sure I agree with that part of your statement SFP. I think the American work ethic is part of the reason America is in trouble right now.

Read this: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-0...er-erodes.html

That article has nothing to do with the average American workforce output and hours worked. What that article points out is the lack of jobs for those in our workforce who have not taken advantage of an education and the lack of jobs for unskilled labor pool.

[Braves4Life]

That article has nothing to do with the average American workforce output and hours worked.

You're right SFP. I linked the wrong article.

I know you MUST agree with this...... http://www.statebrief.com/briefblog/...acker-america/

[SFP]

You're right SFP. I linked the wrong article.

I know you MUST agree with this...... http://www.statebrief.com/briefblog/...acker-america/

I have to admit I've seen my fair share of slackers and mostly from boys! If the statistics are correct there is a growing chasm between woman who go and complete a 4 year degree and men. What we still see in the professional workforce, at least in my field are very dedicated hardworking professionals. Those that want to slack usually find themselves unemployed and eventually move out of the higher cost metro areas. Those that are leaning on Uncle Sam for a job will eventually wish they did not. I've heard plenty of HR people say that they will not bring in a person who has worked for the government as a career in for an interview. Government jobs will have to dry up drastically for any of us to have a chance. We cannot continue to support this bureaucratic waste for too much longer.

BTW...I believe Obama is a one term President unless the Republicans mess up who they run against him.

[ChewaBrave]

There are some great opportunities for highly skilled workers in emerging markets but you need to go beyond just a BS for someone to hand you over a work VISA. Learn a few languages and diversify your skills and anything is possible with the right attitude. Americans are still known for their work ethic and ingenuity. There is also the opportunity to take an American based cultural business to an emerging market and make a great living.

Absolutely - there are obviously some considerations that need to be taken into account, but really after you learn your second language, the next couple are pretty easy

One of the chance characteristics of many emerging economies, is that many used to be part of the good ol' British Empire. In a lot of those states, english is considered a native tongue and/or a business language which can help ease transition as well. Like anything, if you aren't capable of putting yourself out there, testing your humility, and doing a bit of work - it wont work out.

[ChewaBrave]

Those that are leaning on Uncle Sam for a job will eventually wish they did not. I've heard plenty of HR people say that they will not bring in a person who has worked for the government as a career in for an interview. Government jobs will have to dry up drastically for any of us to have a chance. We cannot continue to support this bureaucratic waste for too much longer.

I had a pretty good run I suppose.