NCAA Allegations Against UNC

[AZ BU Fan]

Per ESPN Report: NCAA formally tells North Carolina they are in trouble with their FB program...

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6688739

[tornado]

Note -- there are some of these violations that date back several years -- perhaps at least 6 years -- but the real serious charges are that at least one "associate head coach" and one athletic department "tutor" are charged with not only providing tens of housands of dollars of impermissible benefits to athletes, but also with lying to investigators.

While we're talking paying for players -- new evidence now hints that Oregon also might be in trouble..
http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/blog?...od_ncf_xxx_xxx

[Da Coach]

Like most college sports fans, I suspect things like these are just the tip of the iceberg. There are probably lots of ways for these big colleges to cheat and get away with it. North Carolina was probably just careless that they left a trail that could be followed.

And the allegtions against Oregon are amazing, but again, probably not that rare in the world of big time college football. Paying thousands to a "recruiting service" just to get top level recruits funnelled their way. Does anyone think lots of this stuff isn't going on at a lot of schools?

[tornado]

The mounting concerns over the violations at Oregon now spread to LSU and Cal as the same crook has ties there..

http://www.sacbee.com/2011/07/09/3758325/report-oregon-scout-also-had-ties.html

[sousaman2089]

College football is such a farce. It's all about money, gambling, cheating and winning. And when a program gets caught, it's usually the players who get punished the most.

[AZ BU Fan]

T should be rejoicing, looks like the NCAA is starting to try and 'drain the swamp'....

Yes they have a long way to go to overcome decades of looking the other way, and picking on non BCS or smaller schools letting the big boys skate free.

But, they are finally starting to do something.

The litmus test of whether the NCAA is serious about corruption, will be how they punish OSU in football and KU in basketball

[tornado]

....I guess you could argue that they are starting - but in contrast to how swiftly the NCAA swooped onto BU's campus in summer of 2005 after a couple anonymous calls were made to NCAA by disgruntled people (PM me for more) - digging for any evidence but finding NOTHING to support the anonymous complaints BUT then nailing Bradley for the quesitonable pay records that weren't even a month old -- then nailing BU with violations and suspensions before the season even started. from start to finish -- just two month -- investigators ON CAMPUS in July but notice of POB's suspensions by Sept!

These recent cases like Reggie Bush, the UConn phone calls, etc...take years and years of independent bloggers and writers exposing the proof of the cheating (NCAA doesn't do a thing until embarrassed into it by facts that have already been exposed) - then still they take 3, 4, 5, and even 6 or more years as they did with Reggie Bush to finally conclude something was done illegally.
They drag their feet forever demonstrating obviously it is with GREAT reluctance that they ever look into a BCS program.

By then all the players and coaches have moved on -- making millions in the pros - and the loss of a few wins in the record books hurts nobody!

remember -- these allegations against UNC football that are only now being made by NCAA - but the NCAA actually began looking into UNC way more than a year ago (Link), and involve violations from way back more than FOUR years ago (back as far as may 2007!)

Also note that much of this info detailing and exposing the UNC violations came from a Raleigh News & Observer column written several years ago actually interviewing the players who received the extra payments and freebies! Wow -- is that swift justice??

[sousaman2089]

T should be rejoicing, looks like the NCAA is starting to try and 'drain the swamp'....

I hope to Ford you're right. If they treat OSU and UNC just like USC, that would at least show that the NCAA wants to be consistent with punishment.

But I still don't like how today's USC players are being punished for past USC players' missteps.

[Braves4Life]

It's being reported that UNC has fired Butch Davis......... 'bout time!

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=8274713

[tornado]

While we're talking paying for players -- new evidence now hints that Oregon also might be in trouble....

Oregon receives official notice of violations

http://www.kval.com/sports/130020153.html

On a side note Oregon beat Missouri State today 56-7