Packers win!

[Da Coach]

This is ridiculous all the way around.

Everyone should boycott the car dealer....what a tool.

Boycott? The only people who will boycott are Packer fans, who are probably outnumbered by Bears fans 100 to 1 in that area. Right or wrong, this will most likely be a boon to their business.

[BradleyJD]

Boycott? The only people who will boycott are Packer fans, who are probably outnumbered by Bears fans 100 to 1 in that area. Right or wrong, this will most likely be a boon to their business.

Good for him and his business. I would never want to give money to a person who fired a guy for liking another team. This comes down to a power play by a fan who is P'Oed about his team losing.

This is outrageous. We may as well live in a communist country if you are going to fire a guy for this.

His tie was not profane or lewd. Give me a break.

Decent humans would not applaud this guy and buy cars from him.

[Beninator]

Again, people have different thresholds of pain. Brees was probably playing on a grade 1 MCL sprain. That means the ligament was just stretched. A grade 2 sprain which is what Cutler had means there is a partial tear. A grade 3 sprain means the ligament is completely torn. A grade 2 sprain is probably the toughest to deal with, because it is still attached but is also torn. It depends on how torn it is, because grade 2 just means it is partially torn, which means it could have a small tear or it could be barely still attached. A grade 2 tear almost always comes with at least a partial tear in the meniscus as well, which is the cushion you have between your femur and your tibia.

I still dont see how going out to dinner with his girlfriend has any relevance on if he should have played or not?

Brees played 6 weeks with a torn mcl.....

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/New-Orleans-Saints-say-Drew-Brees-played-six-weeks-with-Jay-Cutlers-injury-012411

[Beninator]

Thank you...and Ben...your REALLY reaching with all this. Cutler is tough and a warrior. IF he could play and NOT hurt the team..he would have. End of story. (probably not)

DRU we can agree to disagree on this but Cutler is no warrior and Cutler has a long way to go to become respected in the NFL as a quarterback. The god given talent is there though.....but for now Jay Cutler=Jeff George

[lefty]

Good for him and his business. I would never want to give money to a person who fired a guy for liking another team. This comes down to a power play by a fan who is P'Oed about his team losing.

This is outrageous. We may as well live in a communist country if you are going to fire a guy for this.

His tie was not profane or lewd. Give me a break.

Decent humans would not applaud this guy and buy cars from him.

the salesman was wrong JD...he didn't get fired for liking his team. He was fired for not complying with what a mgr wanted him to do.....I don't think the mgr handled exactly right but he's the mgr...and the salesman works for them not the other way around. People in the area won't care about this when they wake up tomorrow either...it won't hurt or help business much at all in my opinion.

[BradleyJD]

the salesman was wrong JD...he didn't get fired for liking his team. He was fired for not complying with what a mgr wanted him to do.....I don't think the mgr handled exactly right but he's the mgr...and the salesman works for them not the other way around. People in the area won't care about this when they wake up tomorrow either...it won't hurt or help business much at all in my opinion.

We'll have to disagree. The manager is a clown. He fired him for a Packer tie, period.

You are right about people not caring. That, sadly is our society.

[dogsrus]

DRU we can agree to disagree on this but Cutler is no warrior and Cutler has a long way to go to become respected in the NFL as a quarterback. The god given talent is there though.....but for now Jay Cutler=Jeff George

Cutler is no where NEAR Jeff george. Cutler is respected by his teammates AND the coaching staff....Cutler doesn't whine about loses being the O Lines fault or anybody elses.

JG complained about everything...team mates hated him and he was bad for team chemistry everywhere he played.

Just becuase JC doesn't kis the meida's but and isn't a good interview it says NOTHING about him ON the field.

THe guy got sacked 50 times this year and never ONCE did he point fingers or complain after the game.....and after the Pack los he stood there and answered every question even though I wouldn't have balmed him to tell the media to kiss off.

[Chico]

I never differantiated between Bear OR Packer fans Chico my friend...just ANYONE that was dumb enough to rip him without the facts.

I know, but you mentioned "Bear Haters", and Bear fans were most vocal about not believing the extent of the injury, burning his jersey etc. The really dumb ones are the other players in the NFL who are tweeting.

[AE Braves Fan]

Just to change the subject a little-
A Packers fan working at a suburban Chicago car dealership was fired because he would not remove his Green Bay Packers tie.

http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/news/story?id=6056888

He was given 5 warnings that he would be fired if he didn't remove the tie, and he refused. The car dealership has an advertising partnership with the Bears, and the salesman says that if he had known that, he would not have worn the tie.

The salesman was told 3 times to take the tie off. Once as the employees were joking around. Another time when he was with a customer. Finally he was told "Take your tie off or you're f'ing fired!".

The dealership screamed at him and cussed him out.

If he finds a good lawyer he'll end up owning that dealship and can fire the crybaby that couldn't get over the loss.

Sounds like sour grapes to me.

[BradleyJD]

The salesman was told 3 times to take the tie off. Once as the employees were joking around. Another time when he was with a customer. Finally he was told "Take your tie off or you're f'ing fired!".

The dealership screamed at him and cussed him out.

If he finds a good lawyer he'll end up owning that dealship and can fire the crybaby that couldn't get over the loss.

Sounds like sour grapes to me.

It's certainly classless.

[jrish12]

Brees played 6 weeks with a torn mcl.....

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/N...-injury-012411

I still see no medical personnel talking about Drew Brees in that article. Agree to disagree, but the 2 injuries could be completely different. Like I said before, but you keep ignoring, is that although there are only 3 grades of MCL sprains, the middle one, a grade 2, can be on completely different ends of the spectrum as it just indicates a partial tear. That tear could be barely there or it could be hanging on for dear life to the other part of the ligament. Being a former athletic training student I have seen all 3 grades of MCL sprains and I have personally had the first 2. A grade 2 MCL sprain is one of the toughest knee injuries to diagnose. It depends on the person's pain threshold and alot of other variables. Should we crown Drew Brees king of playing hurt with an MCL tear? Cause thats what you are starting to sound like....

[Da Coach]

Jeremy Crouch had the same injury, a grade 2 sprain of his MCL, near the end of a game on Dec 30, 2006. He knew immediately there was something seriously wrong, he left the court immediately, and could barely walk to get off the court. He was out for a month recovering.
MCL injuries can be not only a painful, but if stressed further, can lead to a full tear (requiring surgery), or due to instability of the knee can lead to severe damage to the internal cartilage structures.

So for those criticizing Cutler, is JC a wimp, too?

[dogsrus]

Jeremy Crouch had the same injury, a grade 2 sprain of his MCL, near the end of a game on Dec 30, 2006. He knew immediately there was something seriously wrong, he left the court immediately, and could barely walk to get off the court. He was out for a month recovering.
MCL injuries can be not only a painful, but if stressed further, can lead to a full tear (requiring surgery), or due to instability of the knee can lead to severe damage to the internal cartilage structures.

So for those criticizing Cutler, is JC a wimp, too?

I have been argueing that same point on both boards and I give up.....it has NOTHING to do with Cutler being a wimp and guys like Brees being tough.

Cutler didn't remove Cutler from the game....the Doctor/trainer told Lovie and HE made the call.

[dogsrus]

I know, but you mentioned "Bear Haters", and Bear fans were most vocal about not believing the extent of the injury, burning his jersey etc. The really dumb ones are the other players in the NFL who are tweeting.

OK...poor wording on MY part. I agree...Bears fans were stoopid but acting, I believe, out of frustration. Bear haters were/are just hating....

The tweeters, other Pro athletes, are complete Jag bags. Dieon Sanders being one of the worst but WHY in gods name would guys like Hassleback, Jones Drew, etc., rip a fellow Pro athlete when they know full well SOMEDAY it may be them.

[Da Coach]

... but WHY in gods name would guys like Hassleback, Jones Drew, etc., rip a fellow Pro athlete when they know full well SOMEDAY it may be them.

They probably had money on the Bears.