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  • #16
    Originally posted by Beninator View Post
    With your emoticon, you probably know the answer,but just in case it involved $$$$$$$$$$$ and free agency in the future. I don't have time to find a legitimate link, but this link pretty much sums things up the way I understand the situation. Besides, the Nationals weren't expected to go anywhere this year.

    "As with many things in life, the short answer is easy: money.
    Baseball players become eligible for free agency when they have accumulated 6.00 or more years of Major League service with a team. This is based on the number of days on the major league roster (or disabled list). You can accumulate six years of service in a six years span, or you can bounce up and down for twenty years and never reach this threshold.
    There is one wrinkle to this ??“ if you send a player to the minor for less than 20 days, he still gets credit for the entire season. Send him to the minors for 21 days, and he gets credit only for his actual time served.
    If you aren??™t grasping the significance yet, it??™s this: if you can keep a guy??™s service time at 5.9 years instead of 6.0 years, you delay his free agency by a year ??“ saving quite a bit of money on the 7th year.
    The point of having Strasburg start the season in the minors, then, is to delay his free agency eligibility until after the 2016 season."

    http://www.observingcasually.com/why...to-the-minors/


    True and I also think it comes into play when a player goes to arbitration. You need to have 3 full years of service before you can file. By waiting till now to call him up , it makes him play that 4th season before he gets a big raise.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by tornado View Post
      ha - I have never been a Cubs fan and haven't watched them since the Ryne Sandberg days..

      just one other thought...

      judging talent in all other sports is far more precise...
      virtually NO NBA player or NFL player is ever a star if he was picked outside the 1st round...(or so..)
      but kids picked in the 50th round and even kids that weren't drafted frequently become stars in MLB - and the opinions vary widely - but one is that some kids' career are ruined in the minor leagues -- just ask ex-Brave Eddie Mathews...

      Disagree - Plenty of NFL stars have been picked after the 1st round. In fact plenty of the NFLs Hall of Famers were not picked in the first round. Mike Singletary, Howie Long, Thurman Thomas, Jack Lambert, were all outside the 1st round. Some stars in the league now for example: Tom Brady (6th), Lance Briggs (3rd), Drew Brees (2nd), Brett Farve (2nd), Kurt Warner (undrafted), Marquees Colston (7th) etc. The list goes on and on.
      Thinking is the hardest work, that is why so few people do it. -Henry Ford

      Yeah...I've been in college for a while now and I'm pretty sure that awesomest is not a word. -Andrew E.

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      • #18
        A couple of thoughts. While it's true Strasburg was going up against the Pirates that was still impressive. 14 k's with no walks and less than 100 pitches in 7 innings is nothing to sneeze at. His fastball is electric and his curveball is as good as Marmal's slider. Baseball experts are already comparing him to Nolan Ryan and Pedro Martinez. I remember reading an article on him a few years ago and Tony Gwynn, who was his coach at San Diego State, took batting practice against him and said he was as good as any pitcher he ever faced. Apparently Washington is going to try and limit how many innings Strasburg pitches this year so he's not overworked. I'll be curious to see if they stick to that if Washington is still in the race in September.

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        • #19
          Stryker - for football you need 80+ some odd active players, so the draft goes on to a zillion rounds...
          you showed a few top players that were drafted outside the 1st round, but still within the first few....and not a whole lot are great players who were drafted in double digit rounds...

          in baseball - often there are really great players picked in the higher rounds...that's all I am saying...and it simply is NOT true of those other sports....sure some Major Leaguers from the 1st round are great players, but show me a sport where often the best players on teams are drafted in the 30th, 40th, or 50th rounds!!!

          I am a Chicago fan.....so let me give the example of...
          Mark Buerhle (38th round).......

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          • #20
            Originally posted by bigjimmy View Post
            A couple of thoughts. While it's true Strasburg was going up against the Pirates that was still impressive. 14 k's with no walks and less than 100 pitches in 7 innings is nothing to sneeze at. His fastball is electric and his curveball is as good as Marmal's slider. Baseball experts are already comparing him to Nolan Ryan and Pedro Martinez. I remember reading an article on him a few years ago and Tony Gwynn, who was his coach at San Diego State, took batting practice against him and said he was as good as any pitcher he ever faced. Apparently Washington is going to try and limit how many innings Strasburg pitches this year so he's not overworked. I'll be curious to see if they stick to that if Washington is still in the race in September.
            As a Cubs fan, let me just say that there should be no comparisons with Strasburg to any current Cubs player.
            Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

            ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Beninator View Post
              With your emoticon, you probably know the answer,but just in case it involved $$$$$$$$$$$ and free agency in the future. I don't have time to find a legitimate link, but this link pretty much sums things up the way I understand the situation. Besides, the Nationals weren't expected to go anywhere this year.

              "As with many things in life, the short answer is easy: money.
              Baseball players become eligible for free agency when they have accumulated 6.00 or more years of Major League service with a team. This is based on the number of days on the major league roster (or disabled list). You can accumulate six years of service in a six years span, or you can bounce up and down for twenty years and never reach this threshold.
              There is one wrinkle to this ??“ if you send a player to the minor for less than 20 days, he still gets credit for the entire season. Send him to the minors for 21 days, and he gets credit only for his actual time served.
              If you aren??™t grasping the significance yet, it??™s this: if you can keep a guy??™s service time at 5.9 years instead of 6.0 years, you delay his free agency by a year ??“ saving quite a bit of money on the 7th year.
              The point of having Strasburg start the season in the minors, then, is to delay his free agency eligibility until after the 2016 season."

              http://www.observingcasually.com/why...to-the-minors/
              I cant even imagine the "conversations" between the Nats and Boros about keeping Strasburg in the minors until June 6th. I believe June 1 was the cut off for years towards abritration. Boros will hold this against the Nats in the future, and the near future with Harper.

              Strasburg is a complete stud, but with any pitcher I have to hold back a little and if anyone is a Cubs fan the names Wood and Prior are all you need to know when it comes to the whole wait and see view.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by houstontxbrave View Post
                I cant even imagine the "conversations" between the Nats and Boros about keeping Strasburg in the minors until June 6th. I believe June 1 was the cut off for years towards abritration. Boros will hold this against the Nats in the future, and the near future with Harper.

                Strasburg is a complete stud, but with any pitcher I have to hold back a little and if anyone is a Cubs fan the names Wood and Prior are all you need to know when it comes to the whole wait and see view.
                Very true on all accounts.
                Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

                ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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                • #23
                  Stasburg in the HOF already

                  Nationals/Strasburg donate game-worn cap and a game ball from 6/8 debut to the National Baseball Hall of Fame and Museum.

                  ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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