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Most men look nothing like they did when they were teenagers or 20 years old. Especially ones whose profession demands physical training and exercise. Just look at what Ronnie Wright does with alot of our guys in 2 years. It is pretty amazing what hard training does to these young men.
and the correct diet! There are some though that you can see that clearly did something a bit different then use natural supplements. McGwire during his HR hitting spree came out and said he was using androstenedione an over the counter supplement and now we find out he was using steroids???? I have really nothing against the guy but he is not HOF material in my book. I probably would feel more compassion for him if he manned up sooner. Bonds and his huge head was clearly using HGH and other illegal substance. In my book he would have been a HOFer regardless but now I'd keep him out. What they did for baseball interms of records and the stain they left are as bad as Pete Rose's betting.
That is another discussion because at least Pete played the game clean he just screwed up as a manager.
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??” Thomas Jefferson
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Ironic this comes out, Fergie was in the area today bird hunting on a private game reserve.....
Ferguson Jenkins: McGwire owes many apologies!
"You have not even begun to apologize to those you have harmed.""How many pitchers do you think he ended their careers by hitting numbers of home runs of them?" Jenkins said during a telephone interview Wednesday.
Jenkins also maintained he would have known how to handle the bulked-up McGwire, who hit a then-record 70 homers in 1998 and followed with 65 the following year. "It's tough to hit a home run off your back," Jenkins said. "In my era, Seaver, Gibson, Drysdale, Carlton, there were so many guys that would have probably knocked him on his butt. He wouldn't have hit home runs the way he did in that era."
"You have yet to apologize to all the pitchers you faced while juiced," Jenkins wrote. "You altered pitchers' lives. You may have shortened pitchers careers because of the advantage you forced over them while juiced.
A convicted drug dealer who says he used to supply steroids to former baseball slugger Mark McGwire told ESPN on Thursday that McGwire's goal was to get "bigger, faster, stronger" to improve his performance on the field.
Need I say more!
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??” Thomas Jefferson
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Pretty cool you went to school and played ball with Thome. I am sure you were on some good teams. So then you understand it is very likely Jim was going to get alot bigger and stronger based on how tall he was, the physical size of his family, and his body structure (tall, athletic frame, and big shoulders). It doesn't always work that way but that is a factor when scouts evaluate players. Does he have the potential to get bigger. Some males can grow into their early 20's and muscles can continue to grow until your late 20's. You then can maintain your strength a few years before you start to lose strength even with training. Your body just doesn't naturally produce or grow muscles at the same rate it did when it was younger.
I am not questioning Bonds, McGwire, or any of the others caught as they are cheats and guilty. They deserve nothing, let alone the Hall of Fame. I think that players want as few people to know as possible. They want others to think they are natural and this strength gain is from hard work. Don't talk about it around players. I think that is one reason why you are hear more from informants, dealers, trainers, doctors, Balco, etc than you hear players talk. Yes some players probably talk to each other about what they take or how to take it or where to get it but those are the id!ots and jerks. I think it is very unlikely that all in the locker room know what a few on their team have done. They would know even less about other teams and their players. They may suspect but have no proof. If you call someone out with no proof you can't just give your opinion.
You are certainly entitled to your opinion. I just don't see how that makes clean players guilty. They have made the correct choices. They had the ability to play professional baseball where many others didn't. The overwhelming majority of H.S. and college players don't have this ability. Clean players have done nothing wrong. Your ex teamate Thome is not a liar or a jerk. He has character. He has earned his reputation as one of the good guys in baseball as Girardi did and so did hundreds of other clean players in any given season.
My bottom line is and then I will leave this whole thing alone.
I feel the way I do about baseball and baseball players is they are all guilty of lieing to the pubic either through the use or the knowledge of the use of steriods. I am assuming that players knew that others were doing steriods but if you traveling, essentially living with 25 people for over 6 months and someone is changing his size you have to have questions especailly if you have been a teammate for several years... dont you think a clean teammate of Brady Anderson might have had a clue or wanted to know how he went from single digit homers to +50 overnight.
Anyway, I used to really love baseball but it is full of lies and cheats and I will not spend money anymore on it.
Thome was and is still a great person and does a ton of great things. His generosity is not questioned, I just question his size explosion during an era of all kinds of size explosions. I respect the guy a ton and I know the amount of hard ass work he put into being a big league player. It just is hard for me to look at any player in the "steroid" era and not believe they got as big as they got without "outside" help.
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I am sure you were on some good teams. So then you understand it is very likely Jim was going to get alot bigger and stronger based on how tall he was, the physical size of his family, and his body structure (tall, athletic frame, and big shoulders). It doesn't always work that way but that is a factor when scouts evaluate players. Does he have the potential to get bigger. Some males can grow into their early 20's and muscles can continue to grow until your late 20's. You then can maintain your strength a few years before you start to lose strength even with training. Your body just doesn't naturally produce or grow muscles at the same rate it did when it was younger. 
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