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The Truth Comes Out - Sammy Sosa was Juicin'

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  • #16
    Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
    By the way- here is the original article from Michael S. Schmidt (not the baseball HOF Mike Schmidt) of the New York Times.--
    Sosa Is Said to Have Tested Positive in 2003


    In this article, the author says he got the information from lawyers who were familiar with the case (presumably former lawyers for the Players Union). On the WSCR morning show, Schmidt was interviewed, and went further, saying he had to dig pretty hard, and do some unconventional things to uncover this confidential information about Sosa. However, he defended it by saying it was what the fans wanted to know, and that regardless of whether he was breaking any laws, he felt the public had a right to know.

    In the article, Schmidt says this in referring to "the lawyers" who were his source-
    "They spoke on condition of anonymity because they did not want to be identified as discussing material that is sealed by a court order."

    But Mr. Schmidt himself apparently has no problem with violating the court ordered confidentially sealed list by publishing this article revealing that Sammy Sosa's name was on it.
    I guess he feels his rights and the public's "right to know" override the laws that the rest of us are expected to abide by.

    I would like to hear from someone in the media- Does the media have a right to publish unconfirmed reports like this, from confidential (and anonymous) sources, that seriously attack a person's character, and appear to ignore a court's orders, and the intent of both sides (MLB and the Player's Union) and publicize such private confidential information?
    Restraining Orders apply to the litigants (and their attorneys) in a lawsuit. They usually have no jurisdiction over the acts of third parties. The media member(s) didn't violate any sort of court order here; the attorney that allegedly leaked the information did. If it can be proven that an attorney leaked the information, he can be severely punished by the court. However, as the authors of the Book of Shadows showed, such media sources are reluctant to give up their sources, so it becomes a bit impractical if not impossible to punish anyone.

    On a related note, I've heard/read that the player's union didn't destroy the test samples because they were hoping to use the test results to show that there was a high number of false positives. In essence, the union wanted to create evidence that could be used to show that the testing system being used was completely inaccurate so as to eliminate testing all together. Oops! If they had simply destroyed the samples instead of trying to take on the entire testing system, there would be no players names to leak right now. Double Oops!

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    • #17



      Rumored 2003 Steroid list leaks out? at on June 29, 2009


      Rumored steroid list (UNCONFIRMED)



      1.Nomar Garciaparra
      2.Manny Ramirez
      3.Johnny Damon
      4.Trot Nixon
      5.David Ortiz
      6.Shea Hillenbrand
      7.Derek Lowe
      8.Pedro Martinez
      9.Brian Roberts
      10.Jay Gibbons
      11.Melvin Mora
      12.Jerry Hairston
      13.Jason Giambi
      14.Alfonso Soriano
      15.Raul Mondesi
      16. Aaron Boone
      17.Andy Pettitte
      18.Jose Contreras
      19.Roger Clemens
      20.Carlos Delgado
      21.Vernon Wells
      22.Frank Catalanotto
      23.Kenny Rogers
      24.Magglio Ordonez
      25.Sandy Alomar
      26.Bartolo Colon
      27.Brent Abernathy
      28.Jose Lima
      29.Milton Bradley
      30.Casey Blake
      31.Danys Baez
      32.Craig Monroe
      33.Dmitri Young
      34.Alex Sanchez
      35.Eric Chavez
      36.Miguel Tejada
      37.Eric Byrnes
      38.Jose Guillen
      39.Keith Foulke
      40.Ricardo Rincon
      41.Bret Boone
      42.Mike Cameron
      43.Randy Winn
      44.Ryan Franklin
      45.Freddy Garcia
      46.Rafael Soriano
      47.Scott Spiezio
      48.Troy Glaus
      49.Francisco Rodriguez
      50.Ben Weber
      51.Alex Rodriguez
      52.Juan Gonzalez
      53.Rafael Palmeiro
      54.Carl Everett
      55.Javy Lopez
      56.Gary Sheffield
      57.Mike Hampton
      58.Ivan Rodriguez
      59.Derrek Lee
      60.Bobby Abreu
      61.Terry Adams
      62.Fernando Tatis
      63.Livan Hernandez
      64.Hector Almonte
      65.Tony Armas
      66.Dan Smith
      67.Roberto Alomar
      68.Cliff Floyd
      69.Roger Cedeno
      70.Jeromy Burnitz
      71.Moises Alou
      72.Sammy Sosa
      73.Corey Patterson
      74.Carlos Zambrano
      75.Mark Prior
      76.Kerry Wood
      77.Matt Clement
      78.Antonio Alfonseca
      79.Juan Cruz
      80.Aramis Ramirez
      81.Craig Wilson
      82.Kris Benson
      83.Richie Sexson
      84.Geoff Jenkins
      85.Valerio de los Santos
      86.Benito Santiago
      87.Rich Aurilia
      88.Barry Bonds
      89.Andres Galarraga
      90.Jason Schmidt
      91.Felix Rodriguez
      92.Jason Christiansen
      93.Matt Herges
      94.Paul Lo Duca
      95.Shawn Green
      96.Oliver Perez
      97.Adrian Beltre
      98.Eric Gagne
      99.Guillermo Mota
      100.Luis Gonzalez
      101.Todd Helton
      102.Ryan Klesko
      103.Gary Matthews
      Bradley football--undefeated again this year

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      • #18
        I saw that list published a couple days ago.
        There is even less information about where this list comes from than the last leak about Sammy Sosa (supposedly from one of the lawyers involved with the Union).

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        • #19
          I'm not sure how reliable that list is because guys like Frank Thomas refused to take the test so that the count would be high enough so they would start testing major league players and he's not on. I'd say though that the players on the list for the most part do not surprise me and I bet there were a few who took precautionary measures regardless who are not part of the list. Doping in sports has been going on a long time and I find the continuing looking back is more of a media focus then a fan's. I wish they just stopped this and concentrated on today's drug testing procedures and policy.
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