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  • #16
    Originally posted by MacabreMob View Post
    All I am saying... if we play IUPU-FW on a neutral court (let's say).... I think of it as a big game. I think we should win - but I don't think it is a given.


    WHAT!! Please tell me you're kidding

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    • #17
      IPFW has only been Division I for 8 years. They have never had a winning record, they have never won more than 13 games in a season, they have never been to the NCAA tournament, or any post-season tournament, they have never had an RPI under 218, and of course, they have never had an All American player, or a player who played pro at any level.
      Their best home attendance in their history was last year when they averaged 1846 per game.
      IMO, their program is so far below the level of Bradley, that it will be decades before it might be suggested they are as close to Bradley's level as BU is to Michigan State. And I am not sure they ever will be.
      And if they played Bradley at Carver Arena the game would be more one-sided than it will be when BU plays at Michigan State.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Braves4Life View Post
        WHAT!! Please tell me you're kidding

        I don't think any game is a given but I think Bradley can win every game.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by MacabreMob View Post
          I think Bradley has a better program than IUPU-FW.

          But....

          2007-08 Season
          Indiana St vs IUPU-FW 63-55 (Difference of 8pts)
          Indiana St vs Bradley 76-66 (diff 10 pts)

          2006-07
          Michigan St vs IUPU-FW 80-43 (37 pts)
          Michigan St vs Bradley 82-53 (29 pts)

          2005-06
          Loyola @ IUPU-FW 69-61 (8pts on road)
          Loyola vs Bradley 86-72 (14pts)

          Now, just finding games to support my argument. There are others to support just the opposite. All I am saying... if we play IUPU-FW on a neutral court (let's say).... I think of it as a big game. I think we should win - but I don't think it is a given. Every game is a big game IMO.

          Now, getting to Michigan State. They knew the game in Peoria was a big game. And I am sure Izzo has the players taking that approach when they play at IUPU-FW.

          Katz? Seems like his arrogance and ignorance shows thru.

          Mac, this requires no defense...it is already self-evident.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by SaintLouBrave22 View Post
            He also probably thinks Bradley is in Indiana like the rest of the ESPN family of morons
            duh...isn't Bradley in Indiana?

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Darrin Chiaverini View Post
              duh...isn't Bradley in Indiana?
              One of the all-time greats!
              Onward and Upward!

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              • #22
                Originally posted by MacabreMob View Post
                I don't understand how the last 20 years defines a program. I don't understand how NCAA basketball only means something since "certain many years ago".

                But for you Lefty...

                Last 20 years...

                BYU has had 11 NCAA trips. They are 3-11. They have advanced beyond the first round 3 times and no further. No Sweet 16's (and beyond).

                Princeton has had 9 NCAA trips. They are 2-9 and have advanced beyond the first round twice but nothing further (no Sweet 16's and beyond).

                Bradley has had 3 NCAA trips. They are 2-3 and have been beyond the first round once and to the Sweet16 once.

                I am not sure where the discussion wants to go with this info. So Bradley has had fewer trips to the NCAA. So do they need to find a conference where they have a better chance to win every year (therefore conceding we can never win the MVC or even compete)? I don't want them to. (time for BradleyBrave to enter saying I want Bradley to shoot for lower expectations and go to the Southland just to win Conference titles and get more bids to the NCAA)

                That's not what I am suggesting.
                Yeah...maybe I don't know what I was looking for there. I do appreciate you looking it up for us though..Some programs that may have been successful many years ago but things change and are not now...you know like Notre Dame football....just kidding

                We look at BU and see them better than many programs around the country but I don't think many people around the country feel the same way. They look at those stats and look at NCAA appearances and may think BYU has a better program. I think people look at IVY league schools differently too.
                We latch onto the Sweet Sixteen year but until we make a habit of getting to the tourney consisitently and winning some games most outside the state have forgotton BU was even there.

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