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    Guided by the security that no foul equates to no harm, coaches are pretzel-bending the NCAA bylaws, using a wink and Cheshire cat grin to trample and shred the original intent of the rulebook, writes Dana O'Neil.


    "Here's some ways cheating is made in the shade these days:

    Carefully choreographed elite camps;
    travel team coaches suddenly ending up on college benches with their super-stud players conveniently going along for the ride;
    speaking fees for those same coaches at colleges that just happen to be recruiting their players."

    "Why break a rule and buy a kid a hamburger when you can obey a rule and buy his coach?"



    Kentucky's Billy Gillispie seems to be the guru at these shady tactics...including paying the fathers of recruits.......

    Phil Martelli (St. Joe's coach) says...
    "I had four or five guys call me and say, 'Hey if you hire me, I can deliver this guy,'" Martelli said. "It made my skin crawl."

  • #2
    Looks like Gillispie isn't paying enough money to recruit's fathers cuz his team stinks LOL. We'll see if they can turn it around though.

    Jason



    Originally posted by tornado View Post
    http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/columns/story?id=3710807

    "Here's some ways cheating is made in the shade these days:

    Carefully choreographed elite camps;
    travel team coaches suddenly ending up on college benches with their super-stud players conveniently going along for the ride;
    speaking fees for those same coaches at colleges that just happen to be recruiting their players."

    "Why break a rule and buy a kid a hamburger when you can obey a rule and buy his coach?"


    Kentucky's Billy Gillispie seems to be the guru at these shady tactics...including paying the fathers of recruits.......

    Phil Martelli (St. Joe's coach) says...
    "I had four or five guys call me and say, 'Hey if you hire me, I can deliver this guy,'" Martelli said. "It made my skin crawl."

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    • #3
      I've heard the first half of that article somewhere else before. A bit different take on the ending.

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      • #4
        FYI...Thread was already started on this yesterday by JeffSu

        ESPN Article on Recruits / Coaches... and Ethics!
        "Educate and inform the whole mass of the people...they are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."
        ??” Thomas Jefferson
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        • #5
          Nice to see Kirk Wessler chime in on cheating in college basketball.........

          "What happened to our moral compass?

          I'll tell you. Our capacity to rationalize smashed it to smithereens.

          When basketball coach Kelvin Sampson, first at Oklahoma and later at
          Indiana, participated in hundreds of NCAA-prohibited telephone calls to
          recruits, his legions of apologists among peers and fans tried to explain that
          breaking those particular rules didn't really constitute cheating. What
          Sampson did, they said, wasn't as bad as the coaches who arrange to fix
          grades or line up cars and fancy apartments and buckets of cash for their
          players.

          Right. And the woman who plows into your parked car and drives away while
          you're having lunch isn't as bad as the man who drives over a pedestrian and
          speeds off. But they're both irresponsible cowards, plus hit-and-run drivers
          and, therefore, criminals.

          I'm sick of this nonsense. All of it. Sick. Sick. Sick.

          And I'm sick of this, too.

          ESPN reported that Billy Gillispie, the head basketball coach at Kentucky and
          the man who hired Daniel Orton's dad to work his camps, claims he doesn't
          like the rule that allows him to pay "coaches" to speak at camps. Gillispie is
          quoted: "I've been in favor of the rule being changed for a long time."

          Let's get this straight. Gillispie knows what he's doing isn't a good thing;
          maybe even a bad thing. But he's going to do this bad thing anyway,
          because the rules won't stop him. In other words, he doesn't have the moral
          strength to stop himself.

          Sad. Sadder still when you realize he has lots of company."



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          • #6
            Unfortunately this winning mentality at any cost and working in the grey has carried over to the non-sport world also. What this type of behavior is called is GREED! The financial melt down that we are witnessing right now was precipitated by a bunch of GREEDY individuals working in the grey of our regulatory system knowing what they were doing and where it was leading. The attitude was if it's not me it will be someone else and I may as well make all that money. I'm sure Gillespie is saying if I do not hire dad someone else will so why not me. Well guys because it just reeks of slime that is why!
            Last edited by SFP; 11-22-2008, 09:40 PM.
            "Educate and inform the whole mass of the people...they are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."
            ??” Thomas Jefferson
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            • #7
              Billy Gillispie was having a hard time winning a game, so may his cheating methods haven't been paying off...
              but Kentucky finally won........
              they beat lowly Delaware State, with DeAndre Liggins getting 5 pts/2 rebs, and Josh Harrelson getting 6 pts/3 rebs.

              Kentucky goes to 1-2 and their RPI skyrockets to 268!!!

              Bradley's RPI by the way is 23, with SOS of 16...both 2nd bests in the Valley


              so sad....Wright State loses again today to go 0-2 , PLUS each of ISU's next FIVE opponents are presently
              ranked at RPI 303, 284, 262, 237, and 292, then after actually playing a team with an RPI of 130
              (Bowling Green) they get 325 Morehead State and 286 Central Michigan.....so ISU's RPI now hovers at 227
              with the prospect of virtually never getting above 200 even if they win out!

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              • #8
                There is a grey are between doing what's legal and what is ethical. Gillespie says that this loophole is a grey area that should be illegal. Then he goes on to say that he knows it is unethical, but since it is not illegal yet, he will continue what he's doing. Thus, he is admitting that he, too, is unethical. Finally, someone willing to admit what they really are.

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                • #9
                  Here's an article on high schools recruiting...


                  the entire starting lineup of the top ranked high school in Kentucky, are all transfers, all are either commits or being recruited by top schools like Kentucky, Louisville, etc....and all the kids' parents seem to amazingly get really nice jobs at a nearby Toyota plant !!
                  And guess what...Toyota is a major benefactor and sponsor of those schools!!

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