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  • Originally posted by Big Mike View Post
    Maybe its just me...but Sams 3 seems to be real flat this year...not much arc on the shot....it your shot is flat on a 3 it has to be perfect....the arc can give you a little rim help if you are off....anyone else notice this?
    Yes....and as I posted earlier, he needs to start shooting from inside the 3-point line as he is 5-6 from 2-point range!
    ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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    • Originally posted by Out of Bounce View Post
      Wilson is just trying to hard to carry the whole team and needs to just play his game. He is playing under size at the 4 and for a cutter, your not going to cut with your butt under the hoop. My concern is that we will never get to see how good TW can really be with him playing the 4, when he is much better suited for the 3. Today would of been a great day to have played AT and WE at the 4 and move TW to the 3 at times. As a team, we can't miss the wide open 3's.
      Thank you for stating this again....

      I appreciate it as I have been saying this for awhile now along w/ a few others...

      I just don't see how Theron is beneficial to our team as a 4....

      Play Taylor, Will, whoever....just put Theron at the 3 where he should be...

      We need a more traditional lineup....as we may beat some teams that aren't as good or as quick as us, we won't be beating the good teams, and we aren't going to win the Valley w/ 4 players in the lineup 6'5" and under...

      Anyone see ISU yesterday...they have a transfer guard who is like 6'6"...yes, a guard...

      I still like the lineup of Singh, Brown, Wilson, Roberts, Dunson to start on Tuesday...we'll see what develops over the next 9 days but those are the 5 that deserve the starts IMO.

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      • Made the trip to the game. I didn't expect to win the game, so I'm not really disappointed by the loss. I thought we started both halves very strong. Defense looked pretty good for the most part until the Gators got hot and started draining 3s.

        We need to have an alternative to David Collins on the offensive end when he's in foul trouble. I like Sam Singh and think he's a solid for us, but we don't look for him as much when he's in the game. Subsequently, our offense consists of passing the ball around the arc hoping for someone to create when Sam's in the game.

        I was surprised about how much Eddren McCain played in the game. He looks very good running the team as the PG.

        I said it before that maybe it was a blessing in disguise for Andrew to be injured since it allowed the new players to get more PT than they would have otherwise. It will be interesting to see what the rotation will look like once he returns.

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        • Through the first two games, I can see and understand coach Les' enthusiasm regarding this years team. They are quick and they are athletic. If they can get some shots to drop they're going be very tough to beat. I don't know if this is going to be a "special" year but after watching the team get their you-know-whats handed to them, I'm confident it will have many positive surprises along the way....

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          • I am also one of the ones who believes we should incorporate a more traditional line up but I just don't see how it could work this season right now. I thought we could do it with AT or WE but apparently they are not ready and so there goes that. For those claiming TB should start at the 4 why would he be a better 4 than TW? Is it just so Theron could play the 3 or are there other legitimate reasons you want TB to play the 4. Believe me, I don't mind that lineup one bit, but I also don't mind SS, TW, CR/TB, DD, EM if Les can convince EM to take some shots to make people guard him. CR needs to get hot earlier in games.

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            • Originally posted by Bradleyguy10 View Post
              CR needs to get hot earlier in games.
              I would be very curious to see how Chris Roberts handles playing off the bench as opposed to starting. I'm assuming Warren will be taking his spot. I think someone compared him to Boogie Wright. So, I'm hoping Chris will have as much of an energizing impact as he did as the sixth man.

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              • Here are a few other good candidates for POW and NOW in the MVC--

                Evansville won their game Saturday against Austin Peay and Shy Ely had a pretty nice game- 23 points, 10 rebounds, and 3 assists.


                And Creighton is 1-0, and they had a couple players who are solid candidates for POW
                P'Allen Stinnett had 30 points, 4 rebounds.
                Booker Woodfox had 26 points, 4 rebounds.


                Illinois State is 1-0 with a nice road win at Wright State, the team picked #2 in the Horizon League. Chamberlain Oguchi had 14 points and 13 rebounds, and Osiris Eldridge had 16 points.

                Wichita State is 1-0 with a win over Florida A&M Sunday. Ramon Clemente had a double-double with 11 points, 12 rebounds. Newcomer Clevin Hannah, a juco PG, lead them with 13 points, and 5 assists.


                And SIU is 2-0 with a couple good games by Carlton Fay.-
                16 points, 11 rebounds against California-Pennsylvania and
                17 points, 4 rebounds against UMass.

                NOW candidate- Johnny Moran, a freshman point guard for UNI, had a double-double in his first college game. He had 14 points and 10 rebounds in UNI's win over Denver.

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                • Originally posted by oilerpimp View Post
                  Through the first two games, I can see and understand coach Les' enthusiasm regarding this years team. They are quick and they are athletic. If they can get some shots to drop they're going be very tough to beat. I don't know if this is going to be a "special" year but after watching the team get their you-know-whats handed to them, I'm confident it will have many positive surprises along the way....
                  It's great to be quick and athletic, but it also helps to have some outside shooting.
                  What part of illegal don't you understand?

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                  • Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                    And Creighton is 1-0, and they had a couple players who are solid candidates for POW
                    P'Allen Stinnett had 30 points, 4 rebounds.
                    Booker Woodfox had 26 points, 4 rebounds.
                    It could be a long season if Stinnett and Woodfox keep that up
                    Return to Glory

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                    • Its great that we got such a quality opponent but its hard to judge "where we are" considering they flew in just hours before tipoff and just played Friday nite. Thats no excuse or any kind of sour grapes its just the facts.

                      Do I think we beat them with a "better" travel schedule and a healthy AW...no but I am sure it would have been a much better game and showing by BU.

                      I'm glad we haven't heard any excuses from the team or the staff. You play the games when and where you are asked to but as a fan I'm taking the circumstances "under advisement" before I make any evaluations.

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                      • Originally posted by Big Mike View Post
                        Maybe its just me...but Sams 3 seems to be real flat this year...not much arc on the shot....it your shot is flat on a 3 it has to be perfect....the arc can give you a little rim help if you are off....anyone else notice this?

                        I have noticed this and almost started a thread about it. Not only are they flat, but he shots them at about 90 mph. They have no chance of getting in unless they are perfect. Maybe he should take a Physics class to learn that there is a better chance of getting the ball in the basket the with a higher arc.

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                        • Originally posted by georgethedog View Post
                          I have noticed this and almost started a thread about it. Not only are they flat, but he shots them at about 90 mph. They have no chance of getting in unless they are perfect. Maybe he should take a Physics class to learn that there is a better chance of getting the ball in the basket the with a higher arc.
                          Sam's threes are exactly the way they were last year as far as I can tell. They were hitting last year, give him a little time and he will be fine.
                          Thinking is the hardest work, that is why so few people do it. -Henry Ford

                          Yeah...I've been in college for a while now and I'm pretty sure that awesomest is not a word. -Andrew E.

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                          • Originally posted by Stryker View Post
                            Sam's threes are exactly the way they were last year as far as I can tell. They were hitting last year, give him a little time and he will be fine.
                            I'm just saying more arc = higher probablility of going in. Simple shape/space dynamics.

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                            • Originally posted by tornado
                              Mike, historically they don't often choose the weekly award winners from teams who did not go undefeated that week.
                              The fact that BU lost to Florida will likely hurt Dodie's chances.
                              I suspect it'll go to Oguchi, even though it took him a million shots, he did score 14 and had 13 rebounds (most of which were simply his and O's missed shots!)....or remotely it might go to John Moran, the UNI freshman who had 14 pts/10 rebs in their close win over Denver.
                              Stinnett's 30 point game vs. New Mexico almost certainly will earn him the POW.
                              DD was named MVC NOW today!

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                              • Originally posted by Chico View Post
                                It's great to be quick and athletic, but it also helps to have some outside shooting.

                                Yeah, I agree. That's why I said so in my original post.

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