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  • #16
    Originally posted by romar View Post
    BTW- does anyone else's mind go to Toni Bennett when you see TB used for Taylor Brown? Or am I the only one making that Pavlovian error?

    I do the same.
    DUBL R 1

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Dubl R 1 View Post
      I like Taylor Brown, but I wouldn't start him yet. I like his energy off the bench to spell the 3 or 4 spot. I would probably guess the starters to be:

      SM
      DD
      AW
      Theron
      DC

      It wouldn't surprise me greatly to see E McCain in the starting line up though. He was solid in 34 minutes against UWP. But if I had to guess, the above lineup is what I'd say.
      I'd call your starting line up a 'Book it.' Maybe I'm crazy, but I wasn't that impressed with Edge. I thought he looked great for a freshman, but I feel like if he was a returning player, or even JUCO, people on here would not be calling for him to play so many minutes.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by BradleyBrave View Post
        With the way Jim wants to play, I would envision TW being the 'power forward' all season. If we wanted to play big, I supposed we could slide TW down to the 3 and insert either WE or TB there. However, I don't see Jim doing that anytime soon.
        Just for fun, how about keeping TW at the 4, bring in TB at the 3 with the rest of the lineup consisting of SM, DD,and DC. -with the assumption that AW is not ready-- sub AW forTB when Andrew is healthy---
        Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

        ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Dubl R 1 View Post
          I like Taylor Brown, but I wouldn't start him yet. I like his energy off the bench to spell the 3 or 4 spot. I would probably guess the starters to be:

          SM
          DD
          AW
          Theron
          DC

          It wouldn't surprise me greatly to see E McCain in the starting line up though. He was solid in 34 minutes against UWP. But if I had to guess, the above lineup is what I'd say.
          looks like we are on the same page. I had someone in my office when I started to type my post.
          Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

          ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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          • #20
            Theron Wilson will start at the 4 because Jim likes to go with 3 guards; I would much rather see these combinations;
            point guards, Maniscalco McCain, Dunson
            shooting guards, Warren,Norris
            small forward, Wilson,Brown,Roberts
            Power forward,Egolf,Thompson
            Center,Collins,Singh
            You could rotate the guards back and forth from the 1 the 2 or even the 3 , the main reason I see in doing this is because it does not appear that we have enough good 3 point shooters to play the system that we have the last 2 years so we need to get more inside scoring, we are giving way too many minutes to the guards and not enough minutes to our bigs.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Majik45 View Post
              I think it's pretty obvious that Wilson will play the 4 for 25-30 minutes a game, and Taylor Brown will pick up the other minutes at that position. Les has been playing a smaller guy at the 4 who can go outside and hit 3's for a couple of years now, and will continue to do so.

              By the way, I love Taylor Brown. I feel like we are getting a guy with Theron's potential for 4 years. They both have simlar builds and a similar game from what I've seen. Brown just needs a year or two to put on some more muscle.
              Agreed...except I think TB has a better perimeter shot. I certainly like his upside.
              Onward and Upward!

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              • #22
                Originally posted by BradleyBrave View Post
                Agreed...except I think TB has a better perimeter shot. I certainly like his upside.
                How would we know? Theron hasn't taken a 3point shot yet..


                GAHHH

                new pick-em how many charging calls will there be on friday?

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                • #23
                  Right now our best lineup would be Collins, Singh, Wilson, Dunson, McCain....

                  But obviously that won't happen...

                  So my guess is that Collins, Wilson, Dunson, McCain, Maniscalco will be the starters w/ AW, SS, and TB being the first three off the bench...I also expect Norris to take some of McCain and Maniscalco's minutes...he may take some if he shoots the ball well, BUT he should take more if he defends well and takes care of the ball...

                  My thoughts:

                  Play Thompson with Collins
                  Play Egolf with Singh
                  Play Theron more at the 3
                  Have Dodie guarding Mayo 95% of the time...NO SWITCHING!!
                  Play Norris with Warren and either PG
                  Have Roberts setup in corners and at the elbow so he can penetrate in the lane
                  Take off the dumb press, all we do is waste energy...if you're gonna trap do it to 100%, NO TOKEN MAN out of the in bounds!!

                  Thats it for now...

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                  • #24
                    Right now our best lineup would be Collins, Singh, Wilson, Dunson, McCain....
                    Just wondered why you like this lineup, and not one with Sam M. in it?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                      Just wondered why you like this lineup, and not one with Sam M. in it?
                      UIC scores a lot of points and is very guard heavy....

                      Sam doesn't play great defense other than helpside....given by the fact that his man scored 24 points from a D-III school and the man he guarded from Lewis scored quite a few...

                      I know he will start, but I just wish someone like Dodie could help him w/ his defense...Sam just isn't quick enough to keep up w/ most of the ppl he has guarded...therefore someone needs to teach him better footwork and the logic of staying on the shooter...

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by SaintLouBrave22 View Post
                        UIC scores a lot of points and is very guard heavy....

                        Sam doesn't play great defense other than helpside....given by the fact that his man scored 24 points from a D-III school and the man he guarded from Lewis scored quite a few...

                        I know he will start, but I just wish someone like Dodie could help him w/ his defense...Sam just isn't quick enough to keep up w/ most of the ppl he has guarded...therefore someone needs to teach him better footwork and the logic of staying on the shooter...
                        I think Sam plays way too close on guys, and because of his lack of quickness, gets burnt quite often.

                        The entire BU team needs to learn some better positioning fundamentals and not get up so close on guys when they're 30+ feet from the basket. We're terrible at moving our feet, and thus we get toasted. We're also terrible at our defensive slides on helpside, so once that one-on-one matchup has been exploited, there's no recovery. Essentially, it's a team-wide epidemic.

                        I just gave myself a headache.
                        Onward and Upward!

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by BradleyBrave View Post
                          I think Sam plays way too close on guys, and because of his lack of quickness, gets burnt quite often.

                          The entire BU team needs to learn some better positioning fundamentals and not get up so close on guys when they're 30+ feet from the basket. We're terrible at moving our feet, and thus we get toasted. We're also terrible at our defensive slides on helpside, so once that one-on-one matchup has been exploited, there's no recovery. Essentially, it's a team-wide epidemic.

                          I just gave myself a headache.
                          Are you now "toasted?"
                          Get Well Massive Mike! "Once a Brave always a Brave!"

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by SaintLouBrave22 View Post
                            Right now our best lineup would be Collins, Singh, Wilson, Dunson, McCain....
                            I'm not sure I would agree here. That lineup would struggle to score 40 points in a game if they played starter's minutes.
                            Based on our current personnel, I just can't envision any starting lineup where Theron is not at the 4.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by BradleyBrave View Post
                              I think Sam plays way too close on guys, and because of his lack of quickness, gets burnt quite often.

                              The entire BU team needs to learn some better positioning fundamentals and not get up so close on guys when they're 30+ feet from the basket. We're terrible at moving our feet, and thus we get toasted. We're also terrible at our defensive slides on helpside, so once that one-on-one matchup has been exploited, there's no recovery. Essentially, it's a team-wide epidemic.

                              I just gave myself a headache.
                              bradleybrave you are right on, sam singlehandly got matt salley fouled out of 2-3 games last year. He would get beat and someone would have to pickup is man and usually foul them. This year i think the scouting report will say if you get sam burn him, at least that seems to be the case sofar.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by ER3 View Post
                                I'm not sure I would agree here. That lineup would struggle to score 40 points in a game if they played starter's minutes.
                                Based on our current personnel, I just can't envision any starting lineup where Theron is not at the 4.
                                I start thinking other lineups would have better O. Yes, we should average more, but the only problem about yesterday: We let a DIII team score 84. repeat after me, we let a DIII team score 84.

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