MVC First Exhibition Attendance

[SFP]

The selling alcohol on campus is cost prohibitive due to the insurance that would be necessary to risk the exposure. I'm sure there are one time loop holes but they probably need to be passed through the insurance company for acceptance.
DoubleJayAlum, I'm sure when the time comes you will be able to have all your questions answered.

[Out of Bounce]

Notify me if I am wrong here. Alcohol is not served at on-campus facilities when an official NCAA sporting event is taking place. I am pretty sure this is for basketball, idk about football.

You may be right Stryker, I don't no. I do know that I attend a lot of football and basketball games at Purdue where my daughter teaches and there is no alcohol at either. But then again, in Indiana there is a law that unless you are 21 years of age, you cannot drink or even be in a restaurant that has a bar unless the bar is some way isolated from the eating area.

[amckillip]

You may be right Stryker, I don't no. I do know that I attend a lot of football and basketball games at Purdue where my daughter teaches and there is no alcohol at either. But then again, in Indiana there is a law that unless you are 21 years of age, you cannot drink or even be in a restaurant that has a bar unless the bar is some way isolated from the eating area.

Yeah, but I don't think that's the reason. I was at the Colts-Pats game and enjoyed a coupe of Brews. So I think its a campus or NCAA decision.

[MacabreMob]

Notify me if I am wrong here. Alcohol is not served at on-campus facilities when an official NCAA sporting event is taking place. I am pretty sure this is for basketball, idk about football.

I believe Stryker is right.

[LG281]

I wasn't trying to say that we need an on campus arena...I was merely pointing out the fact that ISU's attendance is lame.

[Out of Bounce]

Yeah, but I don't think that's the reason. I was at the Colts-Pats game and enjoyed a coupe of Brews. So I think its a campus or NCAA decision.

Your probaby right. One thing after I posted, I started thinking. Out side the stadium on university property, in the parking lots where the tail gaters are there is a lot of alcohol but I don't ever remember seeing any tents or places selling it to the general public. Could be wrong!

[tornado]

... many of you know, Creighton plays at a non campus arena too. .....

not sure why there are still questions about this after so many pages of discussion and clear answers.

here are the two most salient points...take them or leave them...regarding the building
of all the new facilities in/on a tiny, land-locked campus like Bradley---

--BU (men's basketball) is a lock to draw 10,000+ and so they simply will not now or ever want to play in a home arena that fails to seat at least 10,000
....it is just an absolutely suicidal giveaway of tens of millions of dollars of revenue for no good purpose whatsoever.

--there is no way ever BU could have built a 10,000 seat arena (or anything even remotely close to 10,000) on or anywhere near campus.
The amount of available land, traffic considerations, infrastructure, water, sewers, parking, noise, nearby hotels, restaurants, and ingress/egress for safety/emergency vehicles & media are all woefully insufficient and could not POSSIBLY be brought up to sufficient standards no matter how much land Bradley bought and no matter how much anyone or everyone would have tried or wanted to try to help solve all those problems.
If there is still anyone who simply doesn't know this by now and who thinks BU still should have built on campus, then it a total waste to try to discuss it further.

In fact...choose to believe it or not, as I won't again waste time trying to convince, but....

The very fact that BU IS getting the project done that is bringing an incredible student athletic center (the Markin Center) then subsequently the new arena for 4,500, training facilities, and athletic department facilities is----given the opposition, hostility (go back and read KW), and limitation of all factors like parking, infrastructure, etc.....
......is NOTHING SHORT OF A MIRACLE, and when completed will rank as one of the most ambitious and successful building and engineering projects that this city and even this state has ever seen!!

[Bradleyguy10]

when completed will rank as one of the most ambitious and successful building and engineering projects that this city and even this state has ever seen!!

That's a stretch...If you want then do explain, but I'd have to disagree about that.

However, I do agree that an on campus arena is unnecessary and dang close to impossible.

[tornado]

That's a stretch...If you want then do explain...

the difficulties in acquiring the property (which unlike OSF's projects they did not already own
and unlike the Civic Center projects they couldn't just grab by the eminent-domain ruse),
the re-zoning, the planning & preparation, and then getting the finances & actually doing the project
so that it can be completed in just a couple short years time - have not been told and mostly
because Bradley is a private institution and the way they and news about them have been treated
so negatively in the local press, they have chosen to keep 99% of it quiet.
But if it were known, then you might agree. Other than OSF's $280 Million addition that has been in the works
for the past 4-5 years and is still a couple years away....and maybe the Civic Center and its upgrading,
then give me your short list of building projects in and around Peoria that are more impressive and successful
given that NOT ONE PENNY of taxpayer & public money has been ferretted from the people in the city & the state in order to get it done.


btw-- the Civic Center upgrade cost $55 million and the cost to build it in the first place was about the same, yet
BU's complete campus upgrades will probably end up at over $100 million all privately funded.
Did you notice the city and some individuals are trying to get a museum built downtown with private funds...
But they are asking for big bucks from state, local, and federal sources......the project started out around
$20 million numerous years ago...and has now ballooned to over $50 million and is going NOWHERE!!!
All told....they've been at it for nearly a decade, and ....ahem.....just tell me how successful they've been to date????

[shaunguth]

Interestingly enough, I just did a quick search for tickets for isu's home opener and you can still purchase 10th row, lower bowl, end-court tickets.

The best available tickets for Bradley's home opener are in the 21st row of the upper bowl!

[tornado]

Bingo...and where almost ALL of BU's games are televised, ISU just announced their TV schedule, and it's like a game and a half on TV....seriously...
and the news release doesn't even spell basketball correctly

http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2008/11/06/usports/doc4913886700c21007928566.txt

[shaunguth]

Bingo...and where almost ALL of BU's games are televised, ISU just announced their TV schedule, and it's like a game and a half on TV....seriously...
and the news release doesn't even spell basketball correctly
http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2...1007928566.txt

I brought up some interesting points about this press release in another thread too.

[Chico]

And the little bit they are on TV is because of a Peoria station.

[cpacmel]

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Enrollment of students has little to do with overall attendance at games.


Hogwash.....do you think BU would draw more students if it was on-campus? I do. And IF we had an on-campus arena and 3 times as many students as we do now I bet attendance would be increased to the extent tickets would be hard to get.

I can show you plenty of places where their arena is on campus and it hasn't helped them at all. It might make getting to the games alittle more convenient but it isn't keeping 1000's upon 1000's of students from attending games.

[cpacmel]

when completed will rank as one of the most ambitious and successful building and engineering projects that this city and even this state has ever seen!!

Wow. One of the most successful building and engineering projects ever in the state?

Tornado have you ever been to Chicago?