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  • #31
    If you look at the list of coaches who are the voters....one can't help but think the vast majority know little or nothing about the "mid-major" teams that are clear on the other coast.
    So I wouldn't put a lot of stock in what teams are 21st and beyond...especially when they schedule nothing but 330 RPI opponents.

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    • #32
      Anyone else notice the MWC doesn't participate in this? I think that may actually be smart on there part... It distances the from other mid-majors, and kinda rejects that label.

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      • #33
        It is based on the fact that they have pretty high profile football programs & much more massive athletic department budgets, and so are arbitrarily not considered mid-major by these people.
        There is no widely agreed upon line that can be drawn however.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by tornado View Post
          If you look at the list of coaches who are the voters....one can't help but think the vast majority know little or nothing about the "mid-major" teams that are clear on the other coast.
          So I wouldn't put a lot of stock in what teams are 21st and beyond...especially when they schedule nothing but 330 RPI opponents.
          Yes, so I say that and get ridiculed by an under 100 poster....

          UNI got spanked pretty much from bell to bell last night and were down 15 w/ 2:00 to play only to make it look close, but hey, I don't know what I'm talking about when I question why they rank only 1 slot behind us, and thats just me and my ego getting in the way

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          • #35
            Originally posted by tornado View Post
            The Mid-major Top 25 is updated...



            3 MVC teams in the Top 25, 3 more getting votes, although UNI getting only one vote.
            Well, hopefully that person will not be voting for them next time around!
            ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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            • #36
              Originally posted by tornado View Post
              So I wouldn't put a lot of stock in what teams are 21st and beyond...especially when they schedule nothing but 330 RPI opponents.
              Tell me there is not a team that schedules nothing but 330 RPI opponents!
              ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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              • #37
                Tell me what logic can be involved in this when: After 1 game played a team that is 0-1 can still be ranked higher than a team that is 1-0 when said 0-1 team lost at home to said 1-0 team pretty convincingly.

                Now I'm no fan of Illinois ST, but how can Wright St. still be ranked ahead of the Redbirds?

                When I watched that game, IMO, Wright St looked awful. They have no inside game to speak of and looked woefully slow compared to ISU's back court. I don't see how they can be ranked ahead of UIC in the Horizon. Maybe ISU is better than I thought and Wright ST will be ok, but to me, the Raiders didn't look good.
                DUBL R 1

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by amckillip View Post
                  Anyone else notice the MWC doesn't participate in this? I think that may actually be smart on there part... It distances the from other mid-majors, and kinda rejects that label.
                  Go to pg1 #7

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Dubl R 1 View Post
                    Tell me what logic can be involved in this when: After 1 game played a team that is 0-1 can still be ranked higher than a team that is 1-0 when said 0-1 team lost at home to said 1-0 team pretty convincingly.

                    Now I'm no fan of Illinois ST, but how can Wright St. still be ranked ahead of the Redbirds?

                    When I watched that game, IMO, Wright St looked awful. They have no inside game to speak of and looked woefully slow compared to ISU's back court. I don't see how they can be ranked ahead of UIC in the Horizon. Maybe ISU is better than I thought and Wright ST will be ok, but to me, the Raiders didn't look good.
                    Just further proof that nobody should pay attention to these early-season polls, even the ones involving conference coaches and media.

                    It's almost as bad as putting too much stock into the RPI. I mean, is Mercer really the best team in the country with Evansville right behind at #4?
                    ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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                    • #40


                      New poll has Bradley getting 25 votes...and note that Evansville got 43 votes, so
                      almost certainly that's because someone IS looking at the RPI's!!
                      Both Creighton and SIU have dropped, ISU has zoomed to #4!

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by tornado View Post
                        http://www.collegeinsider.com/mmpoll/

                        New poll has Bradley getting 25 votes...and note that Evansville got 43 votes, so
                        almost certainly that's because someone IS looking at the RPI's!!
                        Both Creighton and SIU have dropped, ISU has zoomed to #4!
                        Both Creighton and SIU should drop...SIU more-so...and Evansville should get votes...just not as many w/ losing to Butler by 15...

                        Everyone should vote in the MVC Power Poll next week...I'm sure we may know more than what they do...at least based on teams from our conference.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by SaintLouBrave22 View Post
                          Everyone should vote in the MVC Power Poll next week...I'm sure we may know more than what they do...at least based on teams from our conference.
                          I agree....the larger the sample size, the better the results.
                          ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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                          • #43
                            I find it hard to worry about polls such as these. After all the pre season hype, I sure didn't expect to be beaten by UMKC, with or without AW. And that's all the early poll results are based on, pre season hype by all the schools. If BU keeps playing like they have the past 2 games they will move up because they proved it on the court, not just on paper.
                            What part of illegal don't you understand?

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                            • #44
                              Note that Bradley's 5-1 women's team is getting votes in the AP Top 25!
                              Find the 2024-25 NCAAW rankings on ESPN, including the Coaches and AP poll for the top 25 NCAAW teams.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by tornado View Post
                                Note that Bradley's 5-1 women's team is getting votes in the AP Top 25!
                                http://sports.espn.go.com/ncw/rankings

                                Wow! I think that's first, isn't it? I don't believe the women have ever even been ranked before.

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