Non-Con schedule "officially" posted

[Bravesfan]

Nothing New

EXHIBITIONS
Nov. 3 - LEWIS - 7:05
Nov. 9 - WIS.-PLATTEVILLE - 4:05

REGULAR SEASON
Nov. 14 - UIC - 7:05

COLLEGE BASKETBALL EXPERIENCE CLASSIC
Nov. 16 - @Florida or Syracuse
Nov. 24-26 - Florida Gulf Coast, Richmond, UMKC (Ft. Myers, Fla.)

Nov. 29 - ETSU - 7:05
Dec. 7 - @Michigan State
Dec. 10 - BUTLER - 7:05
Dec. 14 - SEMO - 1:05
Dec. 20 - @Milwaukee - 7:05
Dec. 23 - SIU-E'VILLE - 7:05
Feb. 21 - @Bracketbuster

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Okay, I'm still somewhat confused. Officially we start out in either the Florida region or Syracuse region, facing one of these two teams on their home court depending on which region we are assigned to, correct? After that, do we either go to KC for the single elimination round if we win, or do we end up with one of those other teams on our home court if we lose? Kind of confusing the way this was stated.

[squirrel]

The only part of the CBE Classic that appears as single-elimination are the semis in KC, that appears to have Syracuse, Florida, Washington, and Kansas participating.

So, even if BU goes to the Carrier Dome and wins, they still go to Fort Myers for 3 games and Syracuse to KC. . .

In other words, the old format does not apply.

Try not to over-think it.

[TheAsianSensation]

The CBE setup confuses me.

In theory, if lets say Syracuse loses in regional play, they're still going to the finals? And not the regional winner?

Actually, this makes some sense in this manner: If Syracuse loses, then they have an additional 2 games - against lower competition that didn't make it to the finals either.

[squirrel]

Let me try this explanation. . .the "real" CBE Classic involves the Orange, Jayhawks, Gators, and Huskies in Kansas City.

Each team gets a "warm-up" or "showcase" game on their home floor before the main event. . .like BU @ Syracuse. . .these matchups could make for good TV pairings, so I'm optimistic about that prospect.

The non-KC guarantees go to campus sites under the CBE Classic Banner and get three round-robin exempt counters.

[Bravesfan]

The only part of the CBE Classic that appears as single-elimination are the semis in KC, that appears to have Syracuse, Florida, Washington, and Kansas participating.

So, even if BU goes to the Carrier Dome and wins, they still go to Fort Myers for 3 games and Syracuse to KC. . .

In other words, the old format does not apply.

Try not to over-think it.

I'm trying not to over-think this, but this whole format seems bizarre! Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're saying that even if Bradley beats Syracuse or Florida, we have no chance of winning this tournament? Why even bother participating in it outside of having a chance to knock off a BCS team?

[TheAsianSensation]

The only reason Bradley is in it is because other tourneys fell through, and 4 games is better than 1 game. Although, if the 2 or so cupcakes me get are harmful.....

I guess I'd rather take the composite of @Syracuse, N-Richmond, N-FGCU, N-Cupcake U vs. trying to fill the spot with a single game.

[squirrel]

The games we're getting are too good to pass up.

You get three winnable games as a guarantee and a showcase game against a high-visibility program.

I know the format issue is silly, and it's a trend in college hoops I don't like, but for the short-term anyways, it's the direction these tourneys are headed.

Back to the CCI a couple seasons ago, we could've theoretically lost our two home games before hand, and the semi, and if we were pre-arranged to meet Illinois in the Championship even with losses in all 3 contests as bizarre as it seems, I don't think too many BU fans would complain.

Schools are increasingly holding out on these tournaments for the best guarantees. . .a month ago it didn't look like we would even have these 4 extra games.

[brocks]

This is utterly bizarre. First of all, everywhere I look the organizers claim this is a SIXTEEN-TEAM event. But it's not; it's 16 little insect teams PLUS the 4 grown-ups, making it a TWENTY-TEAM event.

And as much as I love JL, what in the name of God is Bradley University doing in a slimy pond with the likes of FGC UMKC et al so four big toads can pick us off one by one? We're supposed to feel privileged to get ONE shot at a BCS with NO shot at advancing? I'd have thought 3 20-win, post-season seasons would get us a little better than that.

I'll take a home-and-home with Jim Molinari over that kind of nonsense any day of the week.

[Bravesfan]

The only reason Bradley is in it is because other tourneys fell through, and 4 games is better than 1 game. Although, if the 2 or so cupcakes me get are harmful.....

I guess I'd rather take the composite of @Syracuse, N-Richmond, N-FGCU, N-Cupcake U vs. trying to fill the spot with a single game.

Oh, I don't have a problem at all with four games. I think this is great that we get four games with a great game against Syracuse. It's just I never heard of a tournament format like this where only four of sixteen teams are eligible to win the tournament! Very strange indeed!

[brocks]

Yuck. That is a pretty underwhelming non-con schedule.

And it's going to get worse. If we keep getting these recruits, The B10 will need five-for-one deals to come anywhere near us.

[Bravesfan]

This is utterly bizarre. First of all, everywhere I look the organizers claim this is a SIXTEEN-TEAM event. But it's not; it's 16 little insect teams PLUS the 4 grown-ups, making it a TWENTY-TEAM event.

And as much as I love JL, what in the name of God is Bradley University doing in a slimy pond with the likes of FGC UMKC et al so four big toads can pick us off one by one? We're supposed to feel privileged to get ONE shot at a BCS with NO shot at advancing? I'd have thought 3 20-win, post-season seasons would get us a little better than that.

I'll take a home-and-home with Jim Molinari over that kind of nonsense any day of the week.

Well, we had no choice when our first tournament fell through and Iowa St postponed our third game with them until next year. It's good we got the four games, but I'm with you brocks. This is a really strange format!

[squirrel]

This is utterly bizarre. First of all, everywhere I look the organizers claim this is a SIXTEEN-TEAM event. But it's not; it's 16 little insect teams PLUS the 4 grown-ups, making it a TWENTY-TEAM event.

And as much as I love JL, what in the name of God is Bradley University doing in a slimy pond with the likes of FGC UMKC et al so four big toads can pick us off one by one? We're supposed to feel privileged to get ONE shot at a BCS with NO shot at advancing? I'd have thought 3 20-win, post-season seasons would get us a little better than that.

I'll take a home-and-home with Jim Molinari over that kind of nonsense any day of the week.

Because it is an exempt tournament, and the two we tried to get into fell through, IMO this is a steal. You also can't replace lost tournament games with fillers, as they are merely extra games the NCAA allows teams to play.

[Bravesfan]

And it's going to get worse. If we keep getting these recruits, The B10 will need five-for-one deals to come anywhere near us.

Well, we'll worry about this issue later. Let's just keep getting these recruits and winning games!

[squirrel]

Oh, I don't have a problem at all with four games. I think this is great that we get four games with a great game against Syracuse. It's just I never heard of a tournament format like this where only four of sixteen teams are eligible to win the tournament! Very strange indeed!

My guess is you can thank Kentucky for losing to Gardner-Webb in a similar event last year.

Seriously though, last year the CBE struggled to get enough teams to fill out the tourney (they had to use 2 non-DIs) because EVERYONE wants the home games and 2 games is not enticing enough when most tourneys offer 3 or 4. . .

The CBE, in order to appease everyone, had to guarantee those 4 the matchups in KC, but also give the next tier programs (like BU) a guaranteed game against those schools, but also extra games. . .

[basketball nut]

My guess is you can thank Kentucky for losing to Gardner-Webb in a similar event last year.

Seriously though, last year the CBE struggled to get enough teams to fill out the tourney (they had to use 2 non-DIs) because EVERYONE wants the home games and 2 games is not enticing enough when most tourneys offer 3 or 4. . .

The CBE, in order to appease everyone, had to guarantee those 4 the matchups in KC, but also give the next tier programs (like BU) a guaranteed game against those schools, but also extra games. . .

Squirrel hit it right on the nose. Everyone had to be happy w/ this format and the big 4 wanted to be guaranteed to play in KC. The main thing w/a set up like this is they actually get schools at what they consider 4 different levels of play and seed them accordingly. Squirrel are you sure that all of them get 3 games each or is just the top 8 that get to play the 1st round game? What I am asking is do the real bad RPI teams get to play that 1st game when BU does or do they let the 4 big schools play 4 others and then move to the next site where the other 8 schools will join the 4 "play-in" teams to make up a mini tourn. w/i a tourn while the big 4 head to KC for their own tourn.
I do not mean to make this to complex but from what I am seeing so far this is what it looks like will happen but I can't verify that as of yet.