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  • Bad News for the Bears - Missouri State Ripped off by NCAA Once Again

    Missouri State came within a play or two of winning the Missouri Valley Baseball tournament, but lost (12-10) to Wichita State (44-15).
    Missouri State also finished second to WSU in the MVC regular season race, with an outstanding record of 40-17.
    Only 27 teams won 40 or more games this baseball season yet only two didn't get NCAA bids, one of them,
    with some irony attached, is Missouri State.
    Even Dallas Baptist (a non-D-I) got an NCAA bid, and several sub-.500 teams got in
    (Eastern Mich 25-32, Texas Southern 16-32, EIU 27-28, Columbia 22-28, Mt. St. Mary's 21-32)

    here's one thing that should really enrage MVC fans.......
    NINE DIFFERENT SEC teams got in....one automatic qualifier (LSU), plus EIGHT at-large bids
    (Alabama, Arkansas (14-15), Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Ole Miss, South Carolina (15-15), Vanderbilt)!!!
    ONLY three SEC teams are staying home!
    Of the 9 SEC teams plus the 6 ACC and 6 Big 12 teams got in, the NCAA included Alabama with 26 losses,
    Mississippi & Oklahoma with 24 losses, Arkansas & Florida with 22 losses, South Carolina, Virginia, & Georgia with 21 losses,
    Texas & Vandy with 20 losses, Missouri with 19 losses
    .
    Also UCLA and Western Ky both got iat-large bids with 25 losses.

    Here is the biggest surprise of all.........
    Oklahoma, who finished 34-24-1, played a soft non-conference schedule, and was 9-17-1 in their own conference (Big 12),
    and yet they got an at-large bid.

    The folks from Baylor (32-26 and two places ahead of Oklahoma in the Big 12 standings) are angry that Oklahoma got in
    ahead of them as they have made it to the College World Series all but twice in the past couple decades.

    The two time defending College World Series Champs, Oregon State, at 28-24, are also a little ticked that they are
    staying home when teams like Oklahoma got a bid.


    As always, it's probably all in who you know.... as the 64 bids included 30 automatic qualifiers from 30 different conferences.
    But of the 34 at-large bids...here's the breakdown...
    Southeastern -8
    Atlantic Coast -5
    Big 12 -5
    Pacific-10 -4
    Conference USA -4
    Big West -3
    Big East -1
    Colonial -1
    Sun Belt -1
    West Coast -1
    Independent (non-D-I, Dallas Baptist) -1
    The remaining 21 different mid-major conferences (including MVC) got exactly ZERO at-large bids!!

  • #2
    Fire the coach.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Mike Radigan View Post
      Fire the coach.
      You beat me too it. Well done.
      Return to Glory

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      • #4
        The CBI needs to get a B10 team to host an 8 team tournament in college baseball and call it the CBI for College Baseball Invitational.

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        • #5
          I saw this about Dallas Baptist this morning and funny but MSU actually beat Dallas Baptist this season, but DB did win twice versus Rice.

          DB did have a RPI at 29 while MSU has a RPI of 55. The Valley was 12th in RPI. I though really have no clue exactly how Dallas Baptist got invited over Baylor, but I think I can understand over MSU.

          For fun BU's RPI finished at 203.

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          • #6
            Sounds like MSU didn't get the benefit of the doubt again, but it doesn't sound like the conference RPI did much to help them. But with 2 of the top 8 seeds being mid-majors, and 35 mid-majors being in the field, I think it's hard to complain about an NCAA 'bias' when it comes to baseball. With it being a non-revenue sport relative to football and basketball, the NCAA can afford to actually play it somewhat 'fair-and-square'.

            For those wondering who the 35 'mid-majors' are, here they are -

            Bethune-Cookman (36-20)
            Eastern Mich. (25-32)
            James Madison (38-17)
            Charlotte (43-14)
            Lipscomb (32-2
            Cal St. Fullerton (37-19)
            Rider (29-26)
            UC Davis (34-22)
            Pepperdine (36-19)
            Western Ky. (33-25)
            TCU (43-17)
            Wichita St. (44-15)
            Bucknell (29-22-2)
            Tulane (37-20-1)
            Mt. St. Mary's (21-32)
            Elon (43-16)
            UNC Wilmington (42-15-1)
            Coastal Caro. (47-12)
            Columbia (22-2
            East Carolina (40-19)
            Eastern Ill. (27-2
            Oral Roberts (46-12)
            UC Irvine (38-16)
            Texas Southern (16-32)
            New Orleans (42-19)
            Southern Miss. (40-20)
            Rice (42-13)
            Sam Houston St. (37-23)
            Ill.-Chicago (34-20)
            Houston (39-22)
            Dallas Baptist (37-17)
            Long Beach St. (37-19)
            Fresno St. (37-27)
            San Diego (41-15)
            Stony Brook (34-24)
            Onward and Upward!

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            • #7
              Some may consider Rice a mid-major but in baseball Rice is what Memphis is in basketball, a perennial power from a conference that also been very strong.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by tornado View Post
                Missouri State came within a play or two of winning the Missouri Valley Baseball tournament, but lost (12-10) to Wichita State (44-15).
                Actually Mo State did not come within a play or 2 of winning the MVC Tourney. Had they come back to win that game they lost (12-10), they would have had to beat Wichita State in Game #11 of the MVC Tourney.

                I am not sure you are aware of this or not, but the MVC Baseball tourney is double elimination.

                So for Mo State to be the MVC Tourney champs, they would have had to beaten the Shockers TWICE on Saturday.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by cpacmel View Post
                  I am not sure you are aware of this or not, but the MVC Baseball tourney is double elimination.

                  So for Mo State to be the MVC Tourney champs, they would have had to beaten the Shockers TWICE on Saturday.

                  That sounds like a BCS conspiracy to me
                  Can we start winning soon?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by BradleyBrave View Post
                    Sounds like MSU didn't get the benefit of the doubt again, but it doesn't sound like the conference RPI did much to help them. But with 2 of the top 8 seeds being mid-majors, and 35 mid-majors being in the field, I think it's hard to complain about an NCAA 'bias' when it comes to baseball. With it being a non-revenue sport relative to football and basketball, the NCAA can afford to actually play it somewhat 'fair-and-square'.

                    For those wondering who the 35 'mid-majors' are, here they are -

                    Bethune-Cookman (36-20)
                    Eastern Mich. (25-32)
                    James Madison (38-17)
                    Charlotte (43-14)
                    Lipscomb (32-2
                    Cal St. Fullerton (37-19)
                    Rider (29-26)
                    UC Davis (34-22)
                    Pepperdine (36-19)
                    Western Ky. (33-25)
                    TCU (43-17)
                    Wichita St. (44-15)
                    Bucknell (29-22-2)
                    Tulane (37-20-1)
                    Mt. St. Mary's (21-32)
                    Elon (43-16)
                    UNC Wilmington (42-15-1)
                    Coastal Caro. (47-12)
                    Columbia (22-2
                    East Carolina (40-19)
                    Eastern Ill. (27-2
                    Oral Roberts (46-12)
                    UC Irvine (38-16)
                    Texas Southern (16-32)
                    New Orleans (42-19)
                    Southern Miss. (40-20)
                    Rice (42-13)
                    Sam Houston St. (37-23)
                    Ill.-Chicago (34-20)
                    Houston (39-22)
                    Dallas Baptist (37-17)
                    Long Beach St. (37-19)
                    Fresno St. (37-27)
                    San Diego (41-15)
                    Stony Brook (34-24)
                    It probably a little difficult to list the C-USA teams along with those in the WCC, Big West, Southern and Sun Belt as mid major in D1 Baseball. All of those conferences are between 5-9 RPI wise.

                    Mid Major in Baseball is Big East, Big Ten and A 10 all are under 11 RPI wise.

                    Cal State Fullerton, Pepperdine, Fresno St, Rice, WSU, Long Beach St are all certainly not mid major in Baseball. But it is pretty apparent that the NCAA made a point to let everyone know that the SEC is top dog, with the ACC, Big 12 not far behind. But C-USA has 4 teams and one in Rice who is a top6 seed.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by houstontxbrave View Post
                      Mid Major in Baseball is Big East, Big Ten and A 10 all are under 11 RPI wise.

                      Cal State Fullerton, Pepperdine, Fresno St, Rice, WSU, Long Beach St are all certainly not mid major in Baseball. But it is pretty apparent that the NCAA made a point to let everyone know that the SEC is top dog, with the ACC, Big 12 not far behind. But C-USA has 4 teams and one in Rice who is a top6 seed.

                      How can someone from a BCS University be a mid major?

                      The defenition of a mid, from what I understand, is resources available. Are you saying Illinois, OSU, Indiana, Michigan, etc. has less resources then Cal State, Pepperdine, WSU. etc.?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by BradleyBrave View Post
                        Sounds like MSU didn't get the benefit of the doubt again, but it doesn't sound like the conference RPI did much to help them. But with 2 of the top 8 seeds being mid-majors, and 35 mid-majors being in the field, I think it's hard to complain about an NCAA 'bias' when it comes to baseball. With it being a non-revenue sport relative to football and basketball, the NCAA can afford to actually play it somewhat 'fair-and-square'.

                        For those wondering who the 35 'mid-majors' are, here they are -

                        Bethune-Cookman (36-20)
                        Eastern Mich. (25-32)
                        James Madison (38-17)
                        Charlotte (43-14)
                        Lipscomb (32-2
                        Cal St. Fullerton (37-19)
                        Rider (29-26)
                        UC Davis (34-22)
                        Pepperdine (36-19)
                        Western Ky. (33-25)
                        TCU (43-17)
                        Wichita St. (44-15)
                        Bucknell (29-22-2)
                        Tulane (37-20-1)
                        Mt. St. Mary's (21-32)
                        Elon (43-16)
                        UNC Wilmington (42-15-1)
                        Coastal Caro. (47-12)
                        Columbia (22-2
                        East Carolina (40-19)
                        Eastern Ill. (27-2
                        Oral Roberts (46-12)
                        UC Irvine (38-16)
                        Texas Southern (16-32)
                        New Orleans (42-19)
                        Southern Miss. (40-20)
                        Rice (42-13)
                        Sam Houston St. (37-23)
                        Ill.-Chicago (34-20)
                        Houston (39-22)
                        Dallas Baptist (37-17)
                        Long Beach St. (37-19)
                        Fresno St. (37-27)
                        San Diego (41-15)
                        Stony Brook (34-24)
                        Well, that's good to see, but I still don't get the nine bids from the SEC! Are they THAT good?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by dogsrus View Post
                          How can someone from a BCS University be a mid major?

                          The defenition of a mid, from what I understand, is resources available. Are you saying Illinois, OSU, Indiana, Michigan, etc. has less resources then Cal State, Pepperdine, WSU. etc.?
                          I am saying that OSU, Illinois Michigan atleast regarding baseball are not as good as Cal State Fullerton, Pepperdine WSU. Those schools are major programs in baseball and have much better programs then the Big Tens you mentioned. Illinois and Michigan may play in name in the BCS Big Ten but in Baseball the Big Ten is definitly a non major conference.

                          Ohio State has an amazing baseball stadium on an incredible campus, but better baseball players want to play in warm weather and the schools mentioned above can offer warm climates in better baseball conferences. There have been schools who occasionally have very good teams in colder climates Oregon State is an example but consistantly the warm weather teams have a huge advantage in College Baseball.

                          BTW just because, Sam Houston State has a better baseball program then does Illinois.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Bravesfan View Post
                            Well, that's good to see, but I still don't get the nine bids from the SEC! Are they THAT good?
                            Yes, the SEC is that good in baseball.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by houstontxbrave View Post
                              There have been schools who occasionally have very good teams in colder climates Oregon State is an example but consistantly the warm weather teams have a huge advantage in College Baseball.
                              Parts of Oregon have mild winters. Corvallis isn't too bad. I wouldn't call it warm but I wouldn't call it cold. The worst average high/low there is 46/33 in the month of January:

                              http://www.weatherbase.com/weather/w...s=096057&refer=

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