Dewey Kalmer Retires

[RickBB]

In full disclosure I played for Dewey in the early 90's, and wish him nothing but the best in his retirement. BU is a very unique place that obviously, all of us as either fans or alums hold very near to our heart, but I'm not sure most of you understand how hard it is to recruit baseball players to BU.

If any of you have talked to Dewey about recruiting, I'm sure you've heard the Private school vs. public school issue. Since baseball has roughly 12 scholarships to spread around a roster of close to 30 kids, no one gets a full ride. So BU offers a kid 1/2 a ride, the parents still have to come up with the difference. If ISU or SIU or UofI offers the same kid 1/2 a ride, the difference the parents have to come up with is pretty significant (Since I don't have any kids, I can't quote current tuition rates, but I'm sure the difference is still pretty significant.)

So recruit some smart kids that get academic money to make the difference? Logical solution, except we are talking about one of the stupidest rules the NCAA has, in which a student athlete's academic money is counted against the scholarship limits of the sport, even if the dollars don't actually come from the budget of the scholarship pool from the sport. (It's possible this rule has changed, but it was in effect in the early 90's, I know that for sure.)

I could go on and on and on about issues facing college baseball and BU in particular, but actually I've gotta get back to work. (Ok, it TRUE full disclosure, I have to get to the golf course) Frankly I've been disappointed in win-loss record over the last few years as well, but I know I'll never be disappointed in the student athletes and how they represent my university.

[Beninator]

I dont know the man but being a nice or even great guy has nothing to do with how you coach. Should he not be held to a high standard because he is nice? I appreciate all he has done and his long time loyalty to BU. However as someone who wants Bradley to succeed in all things, I cant say Im sorry to see him leave, its long overdue. The "Bradley Way" should be clean program, good kids and winning on occassion. It seems we are happy with two out of three to often. Maybe we can switch to the "Creaighton Way"

Lakeview, I agree with everything you have stated on this thread. I think that BU baseball has the potential to be a very good program with the right coach. I know some former baseball players who think this as well.

[Scouter]

The "Bradley Way" should be clean program, good kids and winning on occassion. It seems we are happy with two out of three to often.

From today's PJS:

"For the first time in seven years, Illinois State has captured the MVC all-sports trophy. ... Bradley finished 10th."

[MacabreMob]

Is attending home games a requirement for being a fan or wanting a team to be successful? If it is a lot of posters on this board wouldn??™t be fans of even the basketball team.

I want the speech team to be great, I want our engineering program to be the best in the country, I want our intramural men??™s volleyball team to win every match and I haven??™t seen a game of theirs in 9 years.

You are right Lakeview.

I suppose my point is something like living in a community like let's say Chillicothe. You want it to look nice and be successful. But you don't spend a dollar at any the businesses except for an emergency 1/2 gallon of milk at Short Loin.

I am not accusing you of not "shopping at your local stores". I was just trying to make a statement about how it is easy to be a "lip-service" supporter.

[tornado]

From today's PJS:

"For the first time in seven years, Illinois State has captured the MVC all-sports trophy. ... "

Since the MVC release listed only the top 5 finishers, I can't find any other confirmation that BU finished 10th.
Anyway....this is unfortunately a bit misleading....

The reckoning of the winner of the All Sports trophy depends a ton on how many of the 18 sports each school competes in, and since most of the schools that are state schools have bigger athletic department budgets (thanks to the taxpayers), then it is a slam dunk that a couple of state schools are the only ones with a prayer of winning this title.

For example...either ISU, SIU, MSU, or Wichita have won every single All Sports Title for the past 13 years.
In fact, no private school has ever won it, due mostly to the fact that the smaller, private schools don't compete in as many sports.

ISU competes in 17 sports, MSU in 14, SIU in 16, WSU in 16, but BU in only 13.
BU did win the Men's Soccer Championship.


To me it is a bit like saying Deron Williams (who by the way had a tremendous season
and was talked about by some as having an MVP type season)
actually finished 12th in the voting for MVP. This is by no means derogatory, since nobody ever votes
for a Utah Jazz player anyway, and actually 12th ain't so bad.
He certainly had a better season than a few of the players who got more votes than Deron did.

[Beninator]

I suppose my point is something like living in a community like let's say Chillicothe. You want it to look nice and be successful. But you don't spend a dollar at any the businesses except for an emergency 1/2 gallon of milk at Short Loin.

Mob, you know Chilli very well.

[it's boogie time]

The reckoning of the winner of the All Sports trophy depends a ton on how many of the 18 sports each school competes in,

I believe it averages the places that the schools get in each sport they compete in. You are not penalized for not competing in a sport.

Bradley's athletic department overall is poor. It would be nice if BU was competing for titles in many more sports, but I'm not going to lose sleep over it. I've been to a few other events overs the years, but men's basketball is the focus for me.

I think the soccer program has shown that BU can compete in any sport with the right people in place.

[Scouter]

This is by no means derogatory, since nobody ever votes for a Utah Jazz player anyway

You sure about that?

Signed,
Karl Malone

[Disturbed]

Since the MVC release listed only the top 5 finishers, I can't find any other confirmation that BU finished 10th.
Anyway....this is unfortunately a bit misleading....

The reckoning of the winner of the All Sports trophy depends a ton on how many of the 18 sports each school competes in, and since most of the schools that are state schools have bigger athletic department budgets (thanks to the taxpayers), then it is a slam dunk that a couple of state schools are the only ones with a prayer of winning this title.

For example...either ISU, SIU, MSU, or Wichita have won every single All Sports Title for the past 13 years.
In fact, no private school has ever won it, due mostly to the fact that the smaller, private schools don't compete in as many sports.

ISU competes in 17 sports, MSU in 14, SIU in 16, WSU in 16, but BU in only 13.
BU did win the Men's Soccer Championship.


To me it is a bit like saying Deron Williams (who by the way had a tremendous season
and was talked about by some as having an MVP type season)
actually finished 12th in the voting for MVP. This is by no means derogatory, since nobody ever votes
for a Utah Jazz player anyway, and actually 12th ain't so bad.
He certainly had a better season than a few of the players who got more votes than Deron did.

Your comparison of Deron Williams and the Valley makes no sense. Did Deron Williams only have stats in some categories but not others?

I understand that you are a giant supporter of BU, and honestly, I want them to be successful in all sports as well. But denying that they are suffering in almost every sport except soccer and men's basketball isn't going to fix anything.

[BUBeam]

If any of you have talked to Dewey about recruiting, I'm sure you've heard the Private school vs. public school issue. Since baseball has roughly 12 scholarships to spread around a roster of close to 30 kids, no one gets a full ride. So BU offers a kid 1/2 a ride, the parents still have to come up with the difference. If ISU or SIU or UofI offers the same kid 1/2 a ride, the difference the parents have to come up with is pretty significant (Since I don't have any kids, I can't quote current tuition rates, but I'm sure the difference is still pretty significant.)

So recruit some smart kids that get academic money to make the difference? Logical solution, except we are talking about one of the stupidest rules the NCAA has, in which a student athlete's academic money is counted against the scholarship limits of the sport, even if the dollars don't actually come from the budget of the scholarship pool from the sport. (It's possible this rule has changed, but it was in effect in the early 90's, I know that for sure.)

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New Rules in effect 8-1-07

http://www.ncaa.org/wps/ncaa?ContentID=10459

The package also retains the financial aid model of 11.7 equivalencies, but limits counters to 27 and requires individual aid packages to include at least 33 percent athletics aid. The regular-season squad size is capped at 35. The recommendations, passed as emergency legislation, will take effect August 1, 2008.

[BradleyBrave]

Your comparison of Deron Williams and the Valley makes no sense. Did Deron Williams only have stats in some categories but not others?

I understand that you are a giant supporter of BU, and honestly, I want them to be successful in all sports as well. But denying that they are suffering in almost every sport except soccer and men's basketball isn't going to fix anything.

Amen! That's like saying Haussler Hall was a first-rate athletic facility for the last 20 years. That type of attitude helped contribute to it being below high school-caliber for that same time period.

[Chico]

Concerning local talent, check the records of the local teams. Manual and Central used to be powerhouses, now they are lucky to field a team. Used to love watching their matchups with each other and Spalding. The other area schools, IMO, don't produce enough talent to help BU, even if they would send players here. Dewey did a good job, with what he had and was a great influence on many a young man. Good luck Dewey.

[Beninator]

Concerning local talent, check the records of the local teams. Manual and Central used to be powerhouses, now they are lucky to field a team.

There is some pretty good talent in the area... Maybe not Manual or Central, but IVC for example has produced a pitcher who went directly into the Yankees farm system and another player who has a scholarship to UIUC. BU baseball has the potential to emerge with the right coach.

[Chico]

Not saying schools like IVC don't produce good talent. If a kid goes right to the pro's that doesn't help recruiting any and no coach can be blamed.

[Beninator]

Not saying schools like IVC don't produce good talent. If a kid goes right to the pro's that doesn't help recruiting any and no coach can be blamed.

Certainly, but there is enough recruitable talent around the area which makes me think that Kalmer got a nice unchallanged ride here for an awful long time.