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  • #31
    Originally posted by Lakeview Brave View Post
    First off Charles Barkely is one of the greatest players of all time, if Beasley has half his career he would be happy.


    I'll second that! Sir Charles proved just how great he was when he was on The Dream Team and outplayed virtually everyone in the world!

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Braves4Life View Post
      I'll second that! Sir Charles proved just how great he was when he was on The Dream Team and outplayed virtually everyone in the world!
      Just as long as the Chuckster is NOT on the golf course.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Mike Radigan View Post
        Just as long as the Chuckster is NOT on the golf course.

        .............or in the casino

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        • #34
          I want Sir Charles to tell us more about how BCS schools hook players up financially.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Lakeview Brave View Post
            Second Guard play is the the main reason the Spurs are where they are, Manu and Tony P are two of the best in the game. Note the Bulls didnt have a big man of much value for the last 6 championships.
            Manu is a 2 not the point guard and he is really a 3 the way he plays. I'm a huge Manu fan BTW... The question is who would you rather have TD or TP? Without TD the Spurs are 8-9 seed.

            I believe Beasley has the skills and the athletic ability to become another CB. He'll be able to take the ball inside, rebound, bang players around and take that outside shot when you leave him alone. I like Rose, I just think Beasley will be a better player in the NBA. Rose without doubt would be my second pick. Rose is explosive, will be able to rebound, score in the paint, will be a floor general but will have a harder time than Beasley in adjusting to the pros. MHO
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            • #36
              Has anyone seen Deandre Jordon or JaVale McGee play? I originally wanted to pick Beasley, but after listening to people I have been convinced that Rose may be the better pick for the Bulls. But if they pick Rose I will only be happy if the move Hinrich or Gordon or both. There have been some rumors of Hinrich to Portland. So while looking at the 13th pick I see a couple big men that could be available. I was curious what these guys games looked like to anyone.

              PS Check out what player they compare McGee to.

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              • #37
                Plenty of talk in Chicago and on sports-talk radio that the Bulls are shopping or discussing trades for Kirk Hinrich.


                If that's the case, it suggests pretty strongly that the Bulls have Derrick Rose as their first pick right now.

                The above article even hints at grabbing Rose in the draft then trading Hinrich (and whatever) for LaMarcus Aldridge.
                If the Blazers have Greg Oden coming back, they might be at liberty to trade Aldridge, and they are certainly demonstrating the position that they want to trade for establilshed players right now.


                If the Bulls could pull that off, wow.......

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                • #38
                  We already had Aldridge, and he became Thomas. Idk how sold I am on him. Interesting idea though. It also puts 2 PG/SG players on portland (Roy and Hinrich).

                  Duncan is easily one of the top 20 players in the NBA ever-probably the best PF ever.

                  TP isn't close to the best PG in the NBA. I know that this isn't the whole story since he plays a lot better in the playoffs than the regular season, but look at the stats of other PGs compared to Parker. STATISTICALLY Hinrich is a better player (better assist:turnover ratio, equal assists, more steals and blocks. Worse ppg and FG%).

                  That's a very easy decision, eventhough Duncan didn't have a great regular season this year. As said earlier, that team is (a little better than) the Chicago Bulls... without Duncan.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by TRIMAN View Post

                    TP isn't close to the best PG in the NBA. I know that this isn't the whole story since he plays a lot better in the playoffs than the regular season, but look at the stats of other PGs compared to Parker. STATISTICALLY Hinrich is a better player (better assist:turnover ratio, equal assists, more steals and blocks. Worse ppg and FG%).
                    Statistically sure maybe he is but eye ball test, ring test, success test no comparision Parker is head and shoulders better then Hinrich.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by houstontxbrave View Post
                      Statistically sure maybe he is but eye ball test, ring test, success test no comparision Parker is head and shoulders better then Hinrich.
                      I know-point is that he's probably not even a top 5 pg in the league.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by TRIMAN View Post
                        I know-point is that he's probably not even a top 5 pg in the league.
                        Triman give me 4 others who are better.

                        Ill spot you Williams and Paul. Give me 2 others who, and I want you to look at their games overall, including winning, leading, defense, scoring, making others better overall who are better the Parker.

                        I honestly believe looking at point guards in the NBA there are 5 solid, Williams, Paul, Billips, Nash and Parker. No way that Parker is not in the top 5 overall point guards in the NBA. There might be others who put up better scoring numbers... Iverson for an example but if you put the entire game together there are not 4 better points in the NBA then Parker.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by TRIMAN View Post
                          We already had Aldridge, and he became Thomas. Idk how sold I am on him. Interesting idea though. It also puts 2 PG/SG players on portland (Roy and Hinrich).

                          Duncan is easily one of the top 20 players in the NBA ever-probably the best PF ever.

                          TP isn't close to the best PG in the NBA. I know that this isn't the whole story since he plays a lot better in the playoffs than the regular season, but look at the stats of other PGs compared to Parker. STATISTICALLY Hinrich is a better player (better assist:turnover ratio, equal assists, more steals and blocks. Worse ppg and FG%).

                          That's a very easy decision, eventhough Duncan didn't have a great regular season this year. As said earlier, that team is (a little better than) the Chicago Bulls... without Duncan.
                          I agree, Duncan is the essential part of the Spurs success. You replace Duncan with Drew Gooden/Tyrus Thomas and the Spurs don't get anywhere near the playoffs in the West. You replace Tony Parker with Kirk Hinrich and, while not as good, I say that team is still in the running.

                          In the last 18 years, the key ingredient in a championship run is a post that is capable of taking over the game on both the offensive and defensive side. Tim Duncan, Rasheed Wallace, Shaquille O'Neal, Hakeem Olajuwan. The exception to that is obviously Jordan who won championships with Horace Grant and Luc Longley as his best bigs. But the Bulls didn't need a dominant big to run the triangle to perfection because they had the best player in the history of basketball. So I think the rule of thumb for any NBA GM should be....unless I have Jordan, I better go get a game changing big guy.

                          The point guard position has been relatively unimportant on the championship teams since 1991. B.J. Armstong, Kenny Smith, Ron Harper, Avery Johnson, Derek Fisher, Tony Parker, Chauncey Billups, Jason Williams. You can win a title with average play from your point guard.

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                          • #43
                            Baron Davis and Jason Kidd are pretty good too, imho.
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                            • #44
                              depends if you count wade, iverson, or joe johnson as PGs. Kidd got REALLY old this year so idk about him. Didn't help that he's on the garbage mavs. I might even take Roy over Parker.

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