TCS Story Changes

[tornado]

In the Dave Reynolds blog, Tyrone Cole-Scott calls DR on the phone and corrects some of the misinformation that has been claimed, published, and posted up 'til now.
Tyrone still feels he was "pressured" to leave, but he now says there was NO TEXT MESSAGE. He, instead, has a recollection of a conversation in which he was told about the hard workouts & "living hell".
TCS also said he wanted to stay quiet on this whole topic "because I wanted to leave on a good note".
Also, "Cole-Scott said he doesn’t remember Les saying anything to him"
and Dave Reynolds seems to hint that he is still not sure what's true and what's not...
"However Cole-Scott and Bradley parted ways, his situation is common in college basketball".

http://www2.pjstar.com/index.php?/reynolds/article

So....since I was one of the people who doubted the authenticity of the "text message", and since a few posters ripped me for having such doubts....

For those who are now shown to be wrong...place your apologies here.......
thank you..............


Further....TCS (in the blog) seems to be saying that just because he had a good game in the exhibition clash with St. Ambrose,
that he deserved to start and get a whole lot more playing time.
Wait, just a minute...since when does a coach ever use just one game to determine starting lineups?
And to say he didn't get much chance to play is ridiculous!!
TCS got to play in almost all of the first 30 games (except where his own silly actions got him a reduction or suspension of playing time).
And he averaged 13 mpg, good for 7th most on the team......and his production was, to say the least, horrible!
31% overall shooting pct, 24% on 3-pointers (and he launched 58 of them - almost as many per minute played as anyone but Crouch),
and his assist to turnover ratio was 22/29 (.75), and FT shooting was bad (53%), and rebounding and defense barely noticable most of the time.

I pulled as hard as anyone for TCS to do well, but he has no business questioning why he didn't play more.
"they told me when they recruited me, I was going to replace Will Franklin. ...
...I scored 36 points against St. Ambrose and then I’m not even starting the next game. That was the only time I really got a chance to play..."

Lastly, TCS never addresses the fact that earlier he, himself, expressed that he wanted to leave Bradley....why not?

[BU ICEMAN]

It is what it is. Let's move on.

[MacabreMob]

So....since I was one of the people who doubted the authenticity of the "text message", and since a few posters ripped me for having such doubts....

For those who are now shown to be wrong...place your apologies here.......
thank you..............

I doubt you are gonna get any apologies from any of the Negative Nellies T.

[AE Braves Fan]

Agreed. These things happen all the time. Should be a non-story and would be if not for the local rag.

[tornado]

But I also believe that this is the exact info DR should have gotten before running with his two front page "he said/she said" stories the past couple days.
How come only NOW he actually speaks to TCS and gets info that refutes the "text message" story of his dad, and bases the "living hell" statement only on the recollection from something said weeks ago?

Regardless...it is still the sour grapes story, disgruntled ex-player stuff we see everywhere, and that's exactly how Dave Reynnolds agrees to it...
"his situation is common in college basketball".

[Beninator]

I know this happens everywhere, and this is a very big business, but there is a part of me that thinks that these kids are STUDENT athletes. If a university (any university) recruits a kid and gives him or her a scholarship, and the kid posts good grades and stays out of trouble, then the university should honor the commitment and not run out the student athlete. --Idealistic---yes--- will it ever change---no.

On a separate note, Les' quote in today's PJS ("we feel good about our guard situatuon) gives me hope that we will get a forward and strengthens my opinion that BU recruited over TCS. (I think we should have recruited over TCS, but this was a point of debate on another thread)

[lake Camelot]

I have no problem with them presuring someone to leave. But I have a problem when they are going to be a Senior. I also think that when you say you were correct about the text message. That is like saying I told you John didn't steal the money. He just shot the bank teller.

I also think TCS comments show he has no idea how to get PT. He had every opportunity to play. He just couldn't get his shot to fall. Or do the little things.

[Beninator]

I have no problem with them presuring someone to leave. But I have a problem when they are going to be a Senior. I also think that when you say you were correct about the text message. That is like saying I told you John didn't steal the money. He just shot the bank teller.

I also think TCS comments show he has no idea how to get PT. He had every opportunity to play. He just couldn't get his shot to fall. Or do the little things.

Very true. Look at the Tony Freeman situation. I dont know too much about him, but if Freeman was in good academic standing and wasnt in trouble with the law, then I also have a problem with pressuring him to leave.

[tornado]

........ correct about the text message.....

how many times does someone's story have to be proven to have holes in it, and how many times does it have to change
before you begin to have doubts about the other parts?

[Bravesfan]

You know, if TCS is going to start complaining about playing time and the coaches being "unfair" to him, then it's probably good that he left. We don't want anymore distractions next year while we try to win the Valley.

[Da Coach]

It remains true.
TCS had his chance to stay. Bradley tried to work with him to get him to stay. He was informed of his place in the guard rotation, and with 4 new guards coming in, I don't think anyone would argue that he would have been the 6th guard, just as he was told.

Yet, the coaches were willing to work with him in individual workouts to try to improve his standing. I think TCS is exaggerating a lot here when he says they were trying to force him out. That was not the case. They were trying to find a way for him to stay and get better.
Remember, Bradley didn't have to wait for him to leave, they were completely within their right to just revoke his scholarship if they wanted to. Chris Lowery does it to multiple players every year at SIU, and every other coach in the MVC has done it. And if Bradley needed the scholarship last month, that's when they would have pulled it if they were going to do it.
So why go through this prolonged charade to get him to leave, when they don't need the scholarship now? It doesn't make sense, and I don't buy it.
I am sure TCS is just seeing things from his own perspective, like he describes in today's Reynolds' Blog. In his mind, he deserved to be a starter all year! He actually believes he was never given a fair chance, and that JC and AW were unjustly playing ahead of him, and his playing time was unfairly being stolen from him. If he really believes that, then I don't think you can believe much else of what he thinks.

[tornado]

I agree

http://www.bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?p=81671#post81671

[Beninator]

It remains true.
TCS had his chance to stay. Bradley tried to work with him to get him to stay. He was informed of his place in the guard rotation, and with 4 new guards coming in, I don't think anyone would argue that he would have been the 6th guard, just as he was told.

Yet, the coaches were willing to work with him in individual workouts to try to improve his standing. I think TCS is exaggerating a lot here when he says they were trying to force him out. That was not the case. They were trying to find a way for him to stay and get better.

Have to disagree with you a little DC...
Individual workouts are one thing... Individual workouts at 6 am in the spring semester after basketball season and after the living hell comment certainly smell of a little gamesmanship to me..... I doubt little Bish's snooze alarm goes off that early after basketball season.

[ph]

Have to disagree with you a little DC...
Individual workouts are one thing... Individual workouts at 6 am in the spring semester after basketball season and after the living hell comment certainly smell of a little gamesmanship to me..... I doubt little Bish's snooze alarm goes off that early after basketball season.

It is certainly not a feel good statement, but then again most D1 coaches use language in practice that is banned on this board.

I think the "why did I not get more PT after a good game" statement rather revealing. Everyone with basic knowledge about this program knows that PT is based on practice performance period
If he said "After a great game and a great week of practices", I still did not get PT, then TCS may have a case.
Right or wrong, the coaching staff looks to be taking the military/drill sargent standard "we need to break you down before we can rebuild you" type approach. Just does not sound pretty in today's PC era

[Out of Balance]

It remains true.
TCS had his chance to stay. Bradley tried to work with him to get him to stay. He was informed of his place in the guard rotation, and with 4 new guards coming in, I don't think anyone would argue that he would have been the 6th guard, just as he was told.

Yet, the coaches were willing to work with him in individual workouts to try to improve his standing. I think TCS is exaggerating a lot here when he says they were trying to force him out. That was not the case. They were trying to find a way for him to stay and get better.
Remember, Bradley didn't have to wait for him to leave, they were completely within their right to just revoke his scholarship if they wanted to. Chris Lowery does it to multiple players every year at SIU, and every other coach in the MVC has done it. And if Bradley needed the scholarship last month, that's when they would have pulled it if they were going to do it.
So why go through this prolonged charade to get him to leave, when they don't need the scholarship now? It doesn't make sense, and I don't buy it.
I am sure TCS is just seeing things from his own perspective, like he describes in today's Reynolds' Blog. In his mind, he deserved to be a starter all year! He actually believes he was never given a fair chance, and that JC and AW were unjustly playing ahead of him, and his playing time was unfairly being stolen from him. If he really believes that, then I don't think you can believe much else of what he thinks.

I agree with you on all that you have said. I think TCS had more than his chances and often wondered why JL was even playing him at all. Besides the St.Ambrose exh. game he had a couple games where he had 11 & 7 points but did nothing else in those games. To answer your ? about if anyone sad seen TCS dad a any games? Yes I did and it was at one of the these games that I saw him show and heard his dismay at JL replacing T with AW. So I think the relationship between TCS's dad and JL has not been on the up's for far longer than what is being said! I think this issue comes down to this.
1. TCS should of never have been given a shcolarship in the first place. This mistake is JL and the coachs.. I think they realized it, and that is part of the reason for all the incoming guards this yr. Give them credit as they gave him a chance, were willing to honor their commitment to him to stay with the team and most of all, get a degree from BU paid for.
2. Big Daddy should of stayed out! This is not little league! His interferance with his sons life has maybe cost his son a degree from a great college and maybe with all this trash talk about BU and the coaching staff, a chance to play somewhere else next yr. If he really cared about his son's future he would of said son stay where you are, get your degree, have fun your senior yr. and enjoy being part of a Div. 1 team with your teammates!!!!!!
3. The nagitive / false stories from the PJS has done nothing to help anyone!
The old saying about "NOT BELIEVING EVERYTHING YOU READ", should as for the PJS say, "DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING YOU READ IN THIS PAPER"!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tornado, don't rub salt in the wounds, just because other people beleived what they were reading and hearing. You know better, as you have removed my theads for saying far less.