Jim Les a Politician?

[mrcoachdude]

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awesome!..by the way Lefty.....why is it I always agree with what you are saying?

Guess there is not enough other things to talk about

[Bravesfan]

I didn't say I thought Jim Les shouldn't have told the truth. I just said he shouldn't have lied. If he didn't want to disclose anything about Ruffin's status, he shouldn't have said anything at all. Les has been around the media long enough to know that -- at least I'd think so.

I'm not stupid enough to think that coaches and players aren't always up front with what's going on. And I realize that not wanting to disclose information about injuries and whatnot is gamesmanship. All I'm saying is if you don't want to talk about it, then don't talk about it. Just don't lie. It's simple as that. Because if you do and the media finds out, it certainly doesn't do anything to improve your relationship with the media. And, from what a lot of people say on here, that's something BU and the PJS could improve on.

Amazing. I won't even dignify this post with a response!

[lefty]

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Thanks MM
way to much work for me there ....maybe when I retire I'll tackle that issue

[lefty]

awesome!..by the way Lefty.....why is it I always agree with what you are saying?

Guess there is not enough other things to talk about

I would like to think it goes back to the great mind thing but you and I both know that's a dream

[Out of Balance]

I'm sorry. I just had to respond to this.

You know, I understand not everyone is the biggest Jim Les fan here, and I know occasionally he gets called out for a coaching move, or disciplinary move or whatever (what coach doesn't?). But to be nitpicking over this statement? Come on! This is right out of the Kirk Wessler school or morality. A coach can't ever hide anything, or a coach never ever is truthful because he doesn't want to reveal details about something that hasn't even occurred yet!

Even if you are right Out of Balance, why should he reveal his entire hand here if he still may be trying to secure another player or two, and risk scaring off potential recruits? I just don't understand why people have to get so nitpicky over every little statement someone says.

I agree with you 100%. I wasn't nitpicking and my intent was mistaken by a few! I would direct you to my last quote to (won't name), where I explained what all my intent was but because I rebuttal in the same matter to the way my mantality was attacted, I got the axed but theirs remain posted. Trust me I am a JL fan and met NO harm in anyway to him and do fully understand his intentions.

[Chico]

Out of Balance, I'm yet to read in that article where JL said he wasn't looking at anymore players. Coaches are always looking. Don't feel alone on having posts deleted. I have seen a lot worse on this board than the ones I've had deleted.

[Braves4Life]

I agree with you 100%. I wasn't nitpicking and my intent was mistaken by a few! I would direct you to my last quote to (won't name), where I explained what all my intent was but because I rebuttal in the same matter to the way my mantality was attacted, I got the axed but theirs remain posted. Trust me I am a JL fan and met NO harm in anyway to him and do fully understand his intentions.

You're OK with me OB. I knew what you were trying to do. Some (ex: Scouter) just got suckered into your trap

[Da Coach]

Out of Balance, I'm yet to read in that article where JL said he wasn't looking at anymore players. Coaches are always looking. Don't feel alone on having posts deleted. I have seen a lot worse on this board than the ones I've had deleted.

There have not been any posts deleted for language. But a few posts were removed for specifically naming or suggesting players who posters thought were being asked to leave.

[Out of Balance]

You're OK with me OB. I knew what you were trying to do. Some (ex: Scouter) just got suckered into your trap

Thanks OB, I just wish Chico would! Just joking, "I think"!

[tornado]

Hmmm...here are some stats that'll get some arguments going...
Jim Les is actually right in the middle of some very good company

Career head coaching record/winning pct.........

Jim Molinari - career .545
Jim Molinari's last 3 years .417, 5 years .462, last 6 years .471
Jim Les -career .538
Jim Les' .......last 3 years .613, last 4 years .542, 5 years .536, last 6 years .538

Comparison....
Kelvin Sampson's first 6 years as a D-I Head coach: (83-92) .474
Mike Krzyzewski's first 6 years as a D-I Head coach: (90-72) .555
Dana Altman's first 6 years as a D-I Head coach: (90-86) .511
Bill Self's first 6 years as a D-I Head coach: (97-76) .561
Travis Ford's first 6 years as a D-I Head coach: (74-95) .438
Dr. Tom Davis' 4 years at Stanford: (58-59) .496
James Naismith (the inventor of the game)/first 6 years: (31-39) .443

[Out of Balance]

Out of Balance, I'm yet to read in that article where JL said he wasn't looking at anymore players. Coaches are always looking. Don't feel alone on having posts deleted. I have seen a lot worse on this board than the ones I've had deleted.

OK, I agree. On the deleted post, the world is full of double standers. Thanks for cheering me up! Now I don't feel alone!

[basketball nut]

Hmmm...here are some stats that'll get some arguments going...
Jim Les is actually right in the middle of some very good company

Career head coaching record/winning pct.........

Jim Molinari - career .545
Jim Molinari's last 3 years .417, 4 years, 5 years .462, last 6 years .471
Jim Les -career .538
Jim Les' .......last 3 years .613, last 4 years .542, 5 years .536, last 6 years .538

Comparison....
Kelvin Sampson's first 6 years as a D-I Head coach: (83-92) .474
Mike Krzyzewski's first 6 years as a D-I Head coach: (90-72) .555
Dana Altman's first 6 years as a D-I Head coach: (90-86) .511
Bill Self's first 6 years as a D-I Head coach: (97-76) .561
Travis Ford's first 6 years as a D-I Head coach: (74-95) .438
Dr. Tom Davis' 4 years at Stanford: (58-59) .496
James Naismith (the inventor of the game)/first 6 years: (31-39) .443

T, I think you must be a trouble maker trying to suggest that JL might be as good as or even better then JM. We all know that couldn't possibly be true-at least according to the way some sound on this board. (Don't jump on me as I really liked JM and have already wished him the best of luck)
It does make for some interesting stats-are we going to have pay JL a 7 figure contract someday to keep him?

[Out of Balance]

I need some help here! If no player leaves the team this yr. will this be the first year (for what ever reason) under JL that this will have happen? How about JM?

[tornado]

How about JM?

From Fred Atkins, Jermaine Brown, to Kevin Clancy, to Roger Suchy, to Rick Harris, to Mark Bailey, James Bailey, Scott Behrends, Matt Moran, Kwame Brown,
Ben Coupet, James Hamilton, Milo Kirsch, Matt Lee, Paul Lee, Mike Collins, Cameron Rigby, and at least a dozen more whose names are so obscure most will not remember....
Molinari, like every coach, had plenty of players who left with eligibility remaining.

[Out of Balance]

From Fred Atkins, Jermaine Brown, to Kevin Clancy, to Roger Suchy, to Rick Harris, to Mark Bailey, James Bailey, Scott Behrends, Matt Moran, Kwame Brown,
Ben Coupet, James Hamilton, Milo Kirsch, Matt Lee, Paul Lee, Mike Collins, Cameron Rigby, and at least a dozen more whose names are so obscure most will not remember....
Molinari, like every coach, had plenty of players who left with eligibility remaining.

Some how I knew the help would come from you! So would it be right to say, that a least 1 player leaves per yr. from the team (for what ever reason).
Thanks for your help. Those are some names from the past!!!!!!!!!!!