Chicago Marshall star Ryan Hare verbals to SIU

[Out of Balance]

Sorry to disappoint Out of Balance, but we already have stooped to that level - See Xavier Crawford, DeAaron Williams, and Dwight Buycks. Thankfully it seems that we learned our lesson with Crawford, Williams, and Buycks, and landed Eddren McCain before Daniel West got added to the list.

No, I'm not disappointed, as non of them have or will be in a BU uniform! It doe's not hurt to look at a player but when he becomes acadmially unquif. then its time to move on, as BU has done. You would (think) hope thats kids who graduate from H.S. could become quif. I to am thankful if there was a lesson learned by BU here. We need players to come to BU to graduate and live successful lifes because for most players the end of their basketball at BU is the just that!

[tornado]

There is no rule prohibiting a student from taking the ACT any number of times but,
they only offer it 2-3 times a year, so by this time, a kid is running out of chances.
If they don't get a qualifying score by the fall of their senior year, a lot of schools back off, then if they fail again in the spring, most programs no longer even bother, assuming the kid is going juco.

But, rarely, as in the case of Tyrone Kent a couple years ago, the kid might just take the test one more time in late summer and then pass, but by then most programs won't have a scholarship left.

[Out of Balance]

There is no rule prohibiting a student from taking the ACT any number of times but,
they only offer it 2-3 times a year, so by this time, a kid is running out of chances.
If they don't get a qualifying score by the fall of their senior year, a lot of schools back off, then if they fail again in the spring, most programs no longer even bother, assuming the kid is going juco.

But, rarely, as in the case of Tyrone Kent a couple years ago, the kid might just take the test one more time in late summer and then pass, but by then most programs won't have a scholarship left.

Is that window of 2-3 times at the high school he is attending or on a state level or can a person say, go out of state (keep moving around). I'm not trying to run this forever just wondering how some of these kids get in after so meny trys! Thanks

[mrcoachdude]

funny to see many trys on a discussion about ACT

[dogsrus]

It will be interesting to see what his scores are. I wonder if the IHSA or NCAA would flag his tests like they did Ruffins if it jumps to much. I often wondered what to much was...is there a set standard or is it arbitrary?

Guys I think we need to get off out high horses also when it comes to ripping SIU and who they are recruiting...I think we have had enough of our OWN problems to be blasting other programs. JMHO.

[BUFAN]

It seems kinda strange to me that SIU, the most successful and celebrated program in the MVC would have trouble recruiting. They were picked to win the conference this year. I watched them play a half a dozen time and was amazed at how week they were. Faulker, Mullens and Shaw, nothing else. They did come around late, but not that far, lost in the tourney to MSU. The 2008 class looks good on paper but so did our 2007 class, we'll have to wait and see.

[Da Coach]

Mullins is the only guy among their better players that Lowery recruited. Falker and Shaw were recruited by Bruce Weber and Matt Painter.
Maybe Lowery sees their drop from the top of the league to 4th this year, and maybe worse next year with Falker and Shaw departing, and feels he has to land a stud class this year to keep from dropping more.

[ER3]

It seems kinda strange to me that SIU, the most successful and celebrated program in the MVC would have trouble recruiting. They were picked to win the conference this year. I watched them play a half a dozen time and was amazed at how week they were. Faulker, Mullens and Shaw, nothing else. They did come around late, but not that far, lost in the tourney to MSU. The 2008 class looks good on paper but so did our 2007 class, we'll have to wait and see.

Huh?
How exactly are you concluding that SIU is having trouble recruiting? If so, I wish BU had exactly the same troubles in recruiting that SIU has...
Their 2008 class, on paper, is the best recruiting class to come into the Valley in recent memory. And it is significantly better, on paper, than our 2007 class was.
Of course the kids still have to qualify and live up to the hype, as always...but Booker, Dillard, Roundtree, Hare, and Bocot...that is an extremely impressive list of recruits...Two Rivals top 150 guys...one 4-star recruit and 4 3-star recruits. No one in the Valley can match that class.

[Guinness]

"He has offers from Hawaii.."

Hawaii winter, Illinois winter, hmmmmmm.

[BradleyBrave]

"He has offers from Hawaii.."

Hawaii winter, Illinois winter, hmmmmmm.

"Darian Norris from Las Vegas, Nevada"

Vegas, Peoria, West Coast, Peoria...hmmm

[Guinness]

"Darian Norris from Las Vegas, Nevada"

Vegas, Peoria, West Coast, Peoria...hmmm

I know, I was thinking that myself.

[Dallas Brave]

SIU is already over the limit of scholarships, further confirming that multiple players are leaving.

You never know ... at SIU he could possibly qualify for a full academic ride and not use an athletic scholie

[tornado]

Cruel, Dallas, cruel...

[tornado]

There are a couple discussions about the possiblity SIU is bringing in all these guards because of some worries about the guards they already have.

First...Brian Mullins had a stress fracture, which can sometimes heal slowly, and it could be possible he won't be ready to go next fall, or at least there are concerns that he might redshirt like Josh Dotzler did when he was progressing slowly.

Then the only other guards who even contributed in the scoring column, Bone, Clemmons...all shot poorly which concerns Coach Lowery.
These guys may lose significant playing time to the incoming players if they can put some points on the board.

[DoubleJayAlum]

First...Brian Mullins had a stress fracture, which is apparently healing stubbornly, and he may not be ready to go next fall, or at least there are concerns that he might redshirt like Josh Dotzler did when he was progressing slowly.

Dotzler never redshirted... Maybe you are thinking about Funk?