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I gotta disagree here DC. Back when SLU was in C-USA, their conference tourney was also held at the Scottrade Center, and I don't recall SLU having much of a home court advantage then.
Is there a reason we'd have to go to 12 just to accept 11? The only problem I could see is seeding for the end of season tournament... You could still keep a balanced schedule with 11 teams, but 12 makes that impossible I think.
I think going to 12 and splitting into a 'private' and 'public' school division would make the most sense and be the most fun.
Private
Bradley
Butler
Creighton
SLU
Evansville
Drake
Public
SIU
MSU
UNI
WSU
ISU
InSU
The most logical way to schedule would be home-and-home with the 5 other teams in your division (10 games), and one game with each of the 6 in the other division (6 games). Now, if the league wanted to keep the 18 game schedule, they could allow for rotating cross-divisional home-and-homes with 2 teams (2 games). The tourney would give byes to the top 4 teams in the league.
I know some of the traditionalists would hate this because we would lose the home-and-home with ISU, but I think overall this would be a great move for the long-term prospects of the MVC becoming a true national power conference when it comes to basketball.
intriguing idea, BB, but if it's a weighted schedule we're looking at, I'd prefer one geographically weighted. East/West
East
Evansville
InSt
ISU
SIU
BU
Butler
West
Creighton
SLU
MSU
Drake
WSU
UNI
or, add another 2 schools (Xavier & dayton) and shift SIU to the west.
Heck, that's almost better than my public and private idea. It certainly keeps the natural geographical rivalries intact (BU-ISU, BU-SIU), which is kind of important I think. Let's go with it!
I would welcome St Louis, Butler, Dayton or depaul to the league....but make it 2 @ a time...heck I think it would help recruiting overall! Bigger markets and maybe more TV time!
I am not sure why either Dayton or DePaul would want to leave their present situation to move to the MVC. Butler and SLU would be logical choices outside shot to a Western Kentucky.
I really would prefer in basketball terms to simply replace Evansville with SLU.
I dont know how often or if it is able to be done but removing Evansville and replacing them with SLU might be a good way to keep everything the way it is in terms of 10 teams. Evansville has shown little committment to their athletics programs and from looking at it as an outsider they seem to be doing everything on a shoe string budget and are not commited to a strong Division 1 program.
Heck, that's almost better than my public and private idea. It certainly keeps the natural geographical rivalries intact (BU-ISU, BU-SIU), which is kind of important I think. Let's go with it!
And only having to face Creighton once a year certainly wouldn't hurt.
I am not sure why either Dayton or DePaul would want to leave their present situation to move to the MVC. Butler and SLU would be logical choices outside shot to a Western Kentucky.
I really would prefer in basketball terms to simply replace Evansville with SLU.
I dont know how often or if it is able to be done but removing Evansville and replacing them with SLU might be a good way to keep everything the way it is in terms of 10 teams. Evansville has shown little committment to their athletics programs and from looking at it as an outsider they seem to be doing everything on a shoe string budget and are not commited to a strong Division 1 program.
Didn't the Drake often get mentioned (before this year) in the Evansville category of MVC schools the "MVC might be better off if they left" category?
Didn't the Drake often get mentioned (before this year) in the Evansville category of MVC schools the "MVC might be better off if they left" category?
I am sure they were mentioned. Their situation is a little different in that they are a founding member of the conference. They did commit to their program by building the arena they now play in. Evansville has eliminated athletic department positions and their fan base has dwindled and it appears their commitment to a strong athletic department is non existant.
Was Evansville added to replace Tulsa? We should have taken Oral Roberts over Evansville both were former Horizon League members clearly ORU is a much better program than EU.
Was Evansville added to replace Tulsa? We should have taken Oral Roberts over Evansville both were former Horizon League members clearly ORU is a much better program than EU.
No, UE did not replace Tula. Evansville joined the MVC in 1994.
Tulsa left after the '95-'96 season. So they were both in the MVC together for 2 seasons.
No, UE did not replace Tula. Evansville joined the MVC in 1994.
Tulsa left after the '95-'96 season. So they were both in the MVC together for 2 seasons.
That's right.... the MVC had 11 teams for a couple years. We had unbalanced scheduling.
TRIVIA TIME
Can anyone name the teams we only played 1 time in those 2 seasons?
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