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  • #31
    Originally posted by BradleyBrave View Post
    I like Ryan Thornton a lot. He's a local kid, and I think by the time he's a senior he could be a nice player. A 6'7" kid with his shooting ability can certainly find a role, especially in a perimeter-oriented offense. However, I don't think that predicting a walk-on to give any significant minutes on what projects to be a VERY deep team makes much sense. There will be 10 more proven DI commodities on the roster than him, and 3 much more highly regarded recruits.

    He should see the floor in certain situations.....
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    • #32
      Originally posted by thefish7 View Post
      Got bored at in a meeting so I scribbled this into my notebook... Starting to look to next year now that our season is over. Just based it on what I saw in the CBI and some other assumptions.

      Minutes by position (Minutes in parentheses, starter listed first)

      1 - Maniscalco (24), Dunson (10), McCain (4), Cole-Scott (2)
      2 - Warren (24), Dunson (10), Roberts (4), Maniscalco (2)
      3 - Wilson (28 ), Roberts (6), Egolf (5), Warren (4)
      4 - Austin (15), Thompson (10), Egolf (6), Wilson (5), Singh (4)
      5 - Thompson (15), Collins (11), Austin (10), Singh (4)

      Minutes by player

      Wilson - 30
      Warren - 28
      Maniscalco - 26
      Austin - 25
      Thompson - 25
      Dunson - 20
      Collins - 11
      Egolf - 11
      Roberts - 10
      Singh - 8
      McCain - 4
      Cole-Scott - 2


      sorry if this has already been discussed as i have not had time to read all the posts in this thread. i added up your minutes for the team and it equals 190 per game. the number of minutes for 5 players at a time each game is 200; plus if you take injuries, suspensions, etc. into account, the average number of minutes per game per team is closer to 220-230. this being said, it is obvious that your distribution lacks quite a few minutes.

      also, if mccain only plays 4 minutes a game, why would we not redshirt him. egolf averaged 6.9 mins/game this year and everyone has been screaming about how we should have redshirted him. to add to that, egolf is a big and will, in general, get less minutes as a young player. IMO mccain will get between 10 and 20 minutes a game. anything less than 10 and i think we should redshirt him.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Dallas Brave View Post
        Starters
        1 - DD
        2 - AW
        3 - TW
        4 - AT
        5 - DC
        Dodie over SM? How do you figure?

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        • #34
          Originally posted by audacious_aficionado View Post
          sorry if this has already been discussed as i have not had time to read all the posts in this thread. i added up your minutes for the team and it equals 190 per game. the number of minutes for 5 players at a time each game is 200; plus if you take injuries, suspensions, etc. into account, the average number of minutes per game per team is closer to 220-230. this being said, it is obvious that your distribution lacks quite a few minutes.

          also, if mccain only plays 4 minutes a game, why would we not redshirt him. egolf averaged 6.9 mins/game this year and everyone has been screaming about how we should have redshirted him. to add to that, egolf is a big and will, in general, get less minutes as a young player. IMO mccain will get between 10 and 20 minutes a game. anything less than 10 and i think we should redshirt him.
          Actually, no, the individual players add up to 200 minutes. Somehow I screwed up the minutes by position though, as they add up to 203... with 43 minutes being played at the "3." Wilson should read 25 minutes at the 3, not 28. That fixes it. So, no, didn't lack anything, but did overdo the 3 by accident.
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          • #35
            Originally posted by TheHeemyMonster View Post
            exactly, I have played against this kid up at hausler before and I didnt see much from him. Can he hit a open three? Sure, but he is the smallest 6'7 kid I have ever played against if that makes sense.
            He did play at UMW, 27 games yes not a ton of minutes but he got on the floor. He also has spent this past season practicing and learing JL's system.

            I dont know if he will play or not but he has D1 experience, two years of D1 practice and one year of Ronnie Wright's conditioning program and will have another summer of conditioning. Whether or not he plays, really no idea but he should be ahead of the JUCO and/or freshmen we bring in for next year.

            He very well could get lost in the shuffle but he could also surprise and bring something valuable to us next season.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by amckillip View Post
              Dodie over SM? How do you figure?
              I like the notion of having a 6'3" PG.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by BU RICK
                Bradley Slamma Jamma
                Amen Brother. I got so tired of hearing this year how our guys did not match up against their guys. Well, I say make them match up to us. You might be able to get by with small ball in the MVC, but you won't get far in the NCAA tournament with it.

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                • #38
                  It will be fun to see a lineup come out with:
                  DD
                  AW
                  TW
                  AT
                  DC

                  The only problem is not enough beef. I hope RA can step in as a solid 4 move AT to the 5. DC will never be mistaken as BEEF! Maybe DC will take up Naptown's offer and prove me wrong.
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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by SanFranciscoPete View Post
                    It will be fun to see a lineup come out with:
                    DD
                    AW
                    TW
                    AT
                    DC

                    The only problem is not enough beef. I hope RA can step in as a solid 4 move AT to the 5. DC will never be mistaken as BEEF! Maybe DC will take up Naptown's offer and prove me wrong.
                    That would be beautiful.

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                    • #40
                      Two things;
                      We are not finished signing recruits and Ryan Thornton has practiced all season so he knows our system which wii give him a head start on any new players.(he is a much better player then some of you think).

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by tornado View Post
                        Here are a couple thoughts regarding next season's starting lineup...
                        just to show how hard it is and how totally inaccurate we all have been each of the past two years...

                        Back in the fall of 2006, we had a pick-em to see if anyone could win a prize by accurately picking the starting lineup for the first game.
                        Guess what.......we had 50 different guesses and NOT ONE was right, as nobody foresaw Jim Les' 4-guard starting lineup, so everyone struck out!

                        Then in 2007 we did it again!!
                        This time 53 people guessed 32 DIFFERENT COMBINATIONS of five players,
                        and still almost all got it wrong...two were right but one was sorta disqualified as he guessed twice.




                        Later this summer/fall we'll probably do it again, but let's wait and see what all personnel changes we might have.
                        I would have to agree completely on how can one even begin to guess what next years line up would consist of. Let's look back over the past few years.
                        3 years ago we were all excited because we would have MS, JC, DR, POB and some good incoming players, mainly junior college but they sounded good non the less. Then JC hit the soph brick wall and never recovered. By the end of the season many on here were ready to throw in the towel on JC.
                        2 years ago we thought we wouldn't have anything and many couldn't understand why JC even came back until the 1st game of the season when he goes off for 7 3's and we became one of the most prolific 3 point shooting teams in the country. ZA stepped up immensely when we wondered on the board if he could ever play more then 10 minutes w/o being in foul trouble but he ended up being an inside presence that all of us loved.
                        Then last year we were all excited because we had all these guys coming in that was taking us to the next level and it neve materialized like we thought. This was for many reasons starting w/ the fact they were new and it took time to gel together and get use to playing at this level. Yet w/ all the disapointments of this past year we also seen some great future things such as SM, TW and the one who may very well turn out to be the best that we have had here in a long time (since #24 Anthony Parker) and he even reminds many of AP whose # he wears and that is AW. Then the CBI brought even more glimpses of hope in DC whom I thought was a waste of time but is showing that he may be able to help out next year. He was a gliimer of light at the end of the tunnel for all of was who are wondering what we will have.
                        Basically it all depends on how hard each of these guys work this summer as to what we will reallly have next year but right now I wouldn't want to predict it as one never knows how hard a young man will work to improve himself. For JC 2 years ago it was taking lots of shots everyday and getting in top ph7ysical shape.
                        Who will be next years JC-Ican't even begin to predict.

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                        • #42
                          Thornton may get that last scholarship...

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                          • #43
                            Your correct. Heck, last year at this time we were all predicting starts for guys that weren't even on the team at the scrimmage in October. I remember predicting that Fears and Brown would be starters. I'm not saying that anyone on this team is going to be leaving, but it is pretty early to be picking the starting line-up, even though it is a blast and I am going to do it right now anyways...

                            1) Sam Maniscalco getting somewhere around half the time to two thirds at PG. DD will probably get the rest of time as he is integrated into the offense. Look for more of DD in the non-conference season.

                            2) Warren will obviously be starting here, he will probably play 30 minutes a game if he can handle it. I expect great things from him next year, and hopefully a little more consistency from beyond the arc. I don't want to see him nail 3 3 pointers and then airball 2 more. I would rather see the other 2 bounce off the rim...! DD may get some playing time at the 2 spot, as he is large player and has ball handling skills.

                            3) HOPEFULLY we will see Wilson playing most of his time here. I think he will improve and hopefully average at least 13-14 pts a game. He had some really great games this year where he scored over 20, so I don't see that as unrealistic. Roberts may get some playing time behind Wilson.

                            ------Scary thought ---- What if we see Egolf behind Wilson next year and actually coming in and hitting a shot from behind the arc?? I've been wondering how Egolf is going to be developed, I think he has a lot of speed and athleticism, if his shot improves I can see Les letting him shoot from outside more and maybe relieve Wilson.

                            4) Starting here should be Thompson. AT has an excellent mid-range jumper, I don't know if anyone has watched him close in warm-ups this year, but his stroke is pure. If he puts on enough weight he shouldn't have trouble posting up at the 4 spot. I imagine Austin relieving him here if Austin isn't in at the 5 spot. I think AT will hopefully play around 20 minutes or more as the year progresses. Look for Les to experiment with him in non-conference games moving him from the 4-5 spot and back again. Obviously look for Egolf here as well.

                            5) Either Sam Singh or Austin will get the start here. I don't see Sam getting alot of playing time as we have 2 bigs behind him. I think between the 4 and 5 spots we have a good 5 man rotation, so look for all of them to spend some time at the 4 and 5, except for Egolf, I can't see him at the 5 position.
                            Thinking is the hardest work, that is why so few people do it. -Henry Ford

                            Yeah...I've been in college for a while now and I'm pretty sure that awesomest is not a word. -Andrew E.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by it's boogie time View Post
                              After the obvious three of Wilson, Warren and Maniscalco, I don't have a clue. New guys are always a crapshoot and none of the returning guys did nothing this year to get meaningful playing time when it was available.

                              I like that we have a lot of people contending to get those minutes. I hope some people emerge over the summer. Bradley needs to get away from this 6 or 7 man rotation if they are going to play effective uptempo basketball.

                              I do like that BU redshirted a player this year and I would like to see that continue next year.
                              Should of redshirted WE this yr. As he gained very little from the little playing time he got! He has alot of tools, but needs such help in all areas of his game! Sub again next yr. with a great future in his Jr. and Sr. yrs. He is a 4 and should focus only on that!!

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Beninator View Post
                                As of now, I would regard Thornton's status as a wild card for next year. He has the shot, but needs to prove that he can compete at this level to earn minutes.
                                I also think RT is a wild card but I know the guy can shoot and he has been well coached his entire life. Not sure he can rebound, but at 6'7" with a little more weight and work with RL could work into a 4. Hope this wild card helps!

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