I WAS for the CBI....

[J Money]

Who said anything about it losing all credibility and the tournament and the other things it puts on going away. Of course they won't. Them ensuring a 3rd game won't be enough to dismantle the entire thing, which is why they do it. And I don't care that it's only one more game out of all the other games they put on. America is a penny pushing country and the people at the top like CEO's will find every possible way to make an extra nickel, whether it's one more game, or whether it's getting cheap labor from China. Sorry to bring this to a national level, it's getting a little off topic, but I'm just using it to prove a point that everyone that is the head of something is all about money and how to get more of it. This is their median of doing it, and I never said it has only happened in this one game. I can pick plenty of games where the team that will generate more income will be favored.

I'm done talking about this...it's over...all I want is a fair game on Friday if we even get there.

I know you're "done talking about this" and that's nice, but now you are bringing into question every basketball game or athletic event for that matter in the country. Stop being so cynical. Watching sporting events must be terrible for you because you can never trust the outcome. I would never watch another game if I thought like you. Show a little trust in the institution and believe that a game is won on the court.

[BU Firsty]

No one ??“ on either side - is going to argue this game was well officiated. Let??™s move on from that.

This game was lost on one factor ??“ Tulsa??™s offensive rebounding. Tulsa had 18 offensive rebounds to Bradley??™s 9 that resulted in a 16-9 differential on second chance points. Add to that the Braves shot 21% on threes compared to a season average of 38% and 55% on free throws compared to a season average of 75%. That was the ball game.

Scouter, I don??™t think I could feel any more differently than you (based on your flippant remarks above). No question, I had higher aspirations for this year??™s team. However, this team has faced a lot of adversity and never quit fighting. It would have been easy to ???mail it in??? at several points this season. They did not and are probably playing as well (despite last night) as they have all year. I am not sure if I will ???let the champagne (sic) flow,??? but winning 22 games three years in a row would certainly be a nice accomplishment. It is unfortunate you have no appreciation for that.

[Tulsa Brave]

Breaking news...

Tulsa has forfeited Wednesday's game and will remain in Tulsa to prepare for Friday's game. They will keep the money they would have spent on traveling to Peoria, since the outcome of the game in Peoria has already been predetermined anyway.

[thefish7]

Nice selective editing there, by the way, Scouter... I think the refs called a bad game, and I think it hurt Bradley more than it did Tulsa. I don't subscribe to conspiracy theories and think what happened was that the refs lost control of the game early and then got all out of sorts trying to get it back under control. Refs have bad games just like players or coaches. I reserve the right to suggest that they had a bad game.

I also went on to say that you'll have trouble with the refs from time to time, and you have to play through it... and that with a couple more rebounds or made free throws Bradley could (or should) have won this game.

[cpacmel]

Hartzell resigned on January 18.

http://unipanthers.cstv.com/genrel/011808aaa.html

[Tulsa Brave]

No one ??“ on either side - is going to argue this game was well officiated. Let??™s move on from that.

This game was lost on one factor ??“ Tulsa??™s offensive rebounding. Tulsa had 18 offensive rebounds to Bradley??™s 9 that resulted in a 16-9 differential on second chance points. Add to that the Braves shot 21% on threes compared to a season average of 38% and 55% on free throws compared to a season average of 75%. That was the ball game.

Nah...what really happened is that since we knew the outcome was predetermined, we figured why waste the energy trying to rebound and why concentrate on making the free throws...we weren't going to win anyway so why bother trying.

[dogsrus]

I started most of this ref bashing last nite when I was upset. Anyone that has said we lost this game for lack of rebounding, poor free throws and poor 3 point shooting is correct. We had a chance to beat these guys and we didn't.

We know have a chance to make adjustments and take this BACK to Tulsa.

Apologies to Tulsa fans for blaming the refs. Were they horrible...I think they were. Did it cost us the game...no...we lost it ourselves..PERIOD.

[pfunk880]

but BU sure didn't get the benefit of getting into the bonus before TU.

Because we couldn't hit free throws?

[TheAsianSensation]

I didn't realize it was Bradley's birthright to win this championship.

Tulsa outplayed us. It's not rocket science.

[cpacmel]

In the loss to Dayton, suddenly the opposite was true...one of the refs was equally tied to both teams but the other two had DONE ONLY east coast games and A-10 games!!
Could it be that the NIT maybe would have preferred to get Dayton and Ohio State matched up instead of ISU & OSU?

Which refs are you talking about Tornado?

The refs for the Dayton / ISU game were:

Kipp Kissinger

Brian Shey

Brett Miles

Shey and Miles didn't ref a single game against any A-10 foe all season.

And Kissinger did a TON of valley games.

[Beninator]

I started most of this ref bashing last nite when I was upset. Anyone that has said we lost this game for lack of rebounding, poor free throws and poor 3 point shooting is correct. We had a chance to beat these guys and we didn't.

We know have a chance to make adjustments and take this BACK to Tulsa.

Apologies to Tulsa fans for blaming the refs. Were they horrible...I think they were. Did it cost us the game...no...we lost it ourselves..PERIOD.

imo a lot of adjustments can be made with our guards and how we match
up against TU... needless to say, rebounding is another issue.

[Da Coach]

I am amazed that anyone thinks that referees are totally unbiased. Of course they are biased, if they weren't, then why does every contact between teams of 2 different conferences require a negotiated contract that stipulates who the referees will be?
Why does nearly every BCS-type school try to reserve the right to select the officials if they play an away game?
Selection of officials is always one of the top negotiable items when contracting for a non-conference game. But if refs are all unbiased, then why would it matter? Nobody would go through all this bother.
Of course, it is exactly because every school wants some say in the officials because they know it does matter, and there are biases.

[J Money]

I am amazed that anyone thinks that referees are totally unbiased. Of course they are biased, if they weren't, then why does every contact between teams of 2 different conferences require a negotiated contract that stipulates who the referees will be?
Why does nearly every BCS-type school try to reserve the right to select the officials if they play an away game?
Selection of officials is always one of the top negotiable items when contracting for a non-conference game. But if refs are all unbiased, then why would it matter? Nobody would go through all this bother.
Of course, it is exactly because every school wants some say in the officials because they know it does matter, and there are biases.

Of course they are slightly biased. It is human nature to have an interest in one team over another. This is a far cry from intentionally giving a game to one team over another, however. It's not even close to having a tournament dictate to the officials which team should win a particular game. Your point is correct, others on this board are taking it the ultimate and ridiculous extreme.

[OrangeandBlack74]

I started most of this ref bashing last nite when I was upset. Anyone that has said we lost this game for lack of rebounding, poor free throws and poor 3 point shooting is correct. We had a chance to beat these guys and we didn't.

We now have a chance to make adjustments and take this BACK to Tulsa.

Apologies to Tulsa fans for blaming the refs. Were they horrible...I think they were. Did it cost us the game...no...we lost it ourselves..PERIOD.

Thanks for finally coming clean, DRU...

I agree with all comments made. Biggest disappointment is that the game could have been won last night...not that it should have been won, but it could have been won!

[dogsrus]

Of course they are slightly biased. It is human nature to have an interest in one team over another. This is a far cry from intentionally giving a game to one team over another, however. It's not even close to having a tournament dictate to the officials which team should win a particular game. Your point is correct, others on this board are taking it the ultimate and ridiculous extreme.

But since the CBI hasa control over who refs the games can't they "help" decide the outcome to an extent by weighting the crew in favor of who they want to win? Getting to refs that did multiple Tulsa games is a good start.

Again though iot doesn't really matter....BU could have won this in SPITE of how bad some of us think the game was called. Oh...and it WAS bad.