BU 68 tulsa 73

[sam hannam]

they had over 7300 there last nite...so you think we would have 2 sellouts?Maybe..but I doubt it

The guys doing the game last night said that Bradley will have 11,000 at the game Wednesday night.

[Bradleyguy10]

We can go deeper and get their guys tired so by the end of the game we would be a lot more rested then them. This would also play out for the next game. If you ever watched Arkansas during their glory years they never had a size advantage but went 10 deep and ran their oponents ragged. I'm not saying we have the same depth but Tulsa has no depth so let's run their bigs to the ground, the earlier we play pressure bal the better. They also have zero point guard so we could create turnoves in bunches and create easy baskets.

We could play:

1 DR - SM
2 JC -TCS
3 AW - WE
4 TW- RA
5 MS - DC

That to me is 10 players that we could switch around and press all game. I hope our players can play 20 minutes of pressure ball.

Oh man I'm sorry but I now have to admit on this board that I don't have much, for lack of better words I'll just say, confidence in WE, and he isn't getting any time. Also, RA is seeing what, less than 5 minutes a game, and TCS hasn't even played yet in the CBI I think. So I'm going to stick with my comment that (right now) we only play 7 deep, and to be honest I like that better than seeing WE in or TCS...I just don't see them contributing right now. Next year MAYBE is their year. But you do make a great point about how they don't have a true point guard, so you're right we could definitely get some turnovers. I think that tomorrow we should play our game normal, and pick up a win. Then in the 3rd game surprise them with a little bit of press. I still don't say do it the entire game, just to keep them on their toes you know. I'm confident in JL; he'll do what he thinks is best.

About maniscalco he made the freshman high major honorable mention list...I don't think a walk on at tulsa could beat him. He was off a little bit but so was everyone else. I can't even remember the number of times a 3 ball would just bank off the back of the rim. Everyone was just shooting too hard or something...it was just off.

[BU ICEMAN]

The and one call was awful, but guys, we got outboarded 46-25!!!! Do you know how bad that is???? We also hardly made any 3's...crouch was 1 for 7...he had an off night from deep, but made some nice inside points again. You can't win if they get all the shots. Give Tulsa credit...they manhandled us down low time and again

My thoughts exactly. Giving a team 2 chances to your 1 is not usually going to work out well for you in the end, you have to limit them to one shot. They were in the teens for O-boards IN THE FIRST HALF!

On the 'O' end, we didn't find ways to consistently get good looks from 3. We had a few, but not nearly as many as against UVA for example. The drive and kick just wasn't working. Crouch and Ruffin did a good job adjusting and going to the bucket, but we still need those 3s.

I think the biggest factor was Theron getting bottled up all night. I haven't seen his stat line, but he didn't seem as involved/active in the offense as in games past. Granted, everybody (on both sides) going to the bucket was allowed to get mugged, didn't help him either.

As far as Coach's T, he was 100% correct in his assessment of the call, but I don't think it was a good idea to relay that to the official. We didn't need to give away any points at that juncture. I don't think we benefit from that T as much as some others have thought. Granted it was only 1 point, but they were all crucial.

[BUconnorD]

Oh man I'm sorry but I now have to admit on this board that I don't have much, for lack of better words I'll just say, confidence in WE, and he isn't getting any time. Also, RA is seeing what, less than 5 minutes a game, and TCS hasn't even played yet in the CBI I think. So I'm going to stick with my comment that (right now) we only play 7 deep, and to be honest I like that better than seeing WE in or TCS...I just don't see them contributing right now. Next year MAYBE is their year. But you do make a great point about how they don't have a true point guard, so you're right we could definitely get some turnovers. I think that tomorrow we should play our game normal, and pick up a win. Then in the 3rd game surprise them with a little bit of press. I still don't say do it the entire game, just to keep them on their toes you know. I'm confident in JL; he'll do what he thinks is best.

About maniscalco he made the freshman high major honorable mention list...I don't think a walk on at tulsa could beat him. He was off a little bit but so was everyone else. I can't even remember the number of times a 3 ball would just bank off the back of the rim. Everyone was just shooting too hard or something...it was just off.

agreed on the TCS...he hasn't played enough to make an impact this wednesday.

RA has put up quality minutes late in the season and i think wed would be a good chance for JL to test RA with some more minutes of playing time.

Same with Sammy Man

[lefty]

The guys doing the game last night said that Bradley will have 11,000 at the game Wednesday night.

well like I said maybe we will I would be surprised...I wonder where they go their info?

[Braves4Life]

They figured it out, JL kept SM in the game until it was over. Someone please tell me a D1 school that pursued the little flat foot.

Surely you jest?! You are really beginning to show your lack of basketball IQ here BUFAN(?) !

Are you a student? Did Sam pass you in the hall without saying "hi"? Maybe steal a girl you had a crush on?

Not only was Sam one of the top rated PG's in Illinois while in highschool, but he was pursued by some quality D-1 programs -- DePaul, Wisc-GB, Loyola, and of course BU!

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=50542&sport=2

In fact, I'd venture to say that if he was not a "legacy" and had not committed to BU so soon he probably would have had many other offers.

You're entitled to your opinion, of course, but I think you are definately in the minority when it comes to your evaluation of Maniscalco.

http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/new/2008-collegehoops-net-high-major-all-freshman-42238

[georgethedog]

Ruffin an 84% FT shooter on the season managed to go 3 for 6 tonight. Whats the odds of that.

Jason

My stats is a little rusty, but here is a stab at your probability question of making exactly 3 out of 6:

(6!/3!x3!) x .84^3 x .16^3 = 4.85%

[Tulsa Brave]

My stats is a little rusty, but here is a stab at your probability question of making exactly 3 out of 6:

(6!/3!x3!) x .84^3 x .16^3 = 4.85%

How about 5-9, which is what Ruffin actually was?

[georgethedog]

How about 5-9, which is what Ruffin actually was?

Give me a moment...

[georgethedog]

How about 5-9, which is what Ruffin actually was?

To be exactly 0-9 would be .00000687%
1-9 would be .000325%
2-9 would be .00681%
3-9 would be .0835%
4-9 would be .65%
5-9 would be 3.45%
6-9 it would be 12.08%
7-9 it would be 27.19%
8-9 it would be 35.69%
9-9 it would be 20.82%.

That adds to 99.97%. Lost on rounding somewhere... I used what I could remember from the law of Binomial Distributions.

[Tulsa Brave]

Thanks! At least I know now that there is less than a 5% chance that Ruffin goes 5-9 or worse again tomorrow night.

[Out of Balance]

Surely you jest?! You are really beginning to show your lack of basketball IQ here BUFAN(?) !

Are you a student? Did Sam pass you in the hall without saying "hi"? Maybe steal a girl you had a crush on?

Not only was Sam one of the top rated PG's in Illinois while in highschool, but he was pursued by some quality D-1 programs -- DePaul, Wisc-GB, Loyola, and of course BU!

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=50542&sport=2

In fact, I'd venture to say that if he was not a "legacy" and had not committed to BU so soon he probably would have had many other offers.

You're entitled to your opinion, of course, but I think you are definately in the minority when it comes to your evaluation of Maniscalco.

http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/new/2...freshman-42238

Great come backs to BUFAN! I have a couple ?'s for BUFAN.
Do you know anything about B-ball? Do you know what a jockstrap is? I would like to see you race that little flat. Your just not right!

[ER3]

i love the idea of getting more time for our tall guys.

we were obviously lacking in the rebound department. It'd be great to have austin and MS on the court at the same time. or DC and RA or ANYBODY!!! this team will walk all over us if we play with all guards and MS.

side note...theron needs to get in the paint more on Wednesday!

2 things...
1. Putting a bunch of tall guys out on the court does not magically turn you into a good rebounding team. Blocking out, putting a body on someone, and going hard after missed shots makes you a great rebounder...and if you do those things consistently, you should be able to be a good rebounder if you are 6'5" or if you are 7'5".

2. With the offense we run and the low post personnel we have, you just can't have long stretches of the game where you have two bigs (RA and MS, SS and MS, DC and MS, etc.) on the floor...if you want to score any points at all on the offensive end...We spread the floor and try to penetrate and kick for threes on offense...and for that offense to work, you need to have 3 guards and Theron on the floor a majority of the time...2 bigs in that setup is pretty redundant, as we usually just use one to set high ball screens to start the offense. In fact I saw several times last night when we had two bigs in the game where both bigs were running out to the same spot to try and set the same high ball screen...not very smooth offensive execution there.

I hate watching this team get outrebounded, too, believe me. But throwing a bunch of bigs on the floor at the same time just isn't the answer in the big picture...it would absolutely kill us on the offensive end over the long haul.
The fact of the matter is that even when we play our small lineup, we still have 4 guys on the floor that are 6'5" or taller. There's no reason that 4 guys that are 6'5", 6'5", 6'5", and 6'8" shouldn't be able to find a way to block out and at the very least be an adequate rebounding lineup...But for whatever reason, that hasn't been the case for most of the year this season.

[VeveJones007]

2 things...
1. Putting a bunch of tall guys out on the court does not magically turn you into a good rebounding team. Blocking out, putting a body on someone, and going hard after missed shots makes you a great rebounder...and if you do those things consistently, you should be able to be a good rebounder if you are 6'5" or if you are 7'5".

2. With the offense we run and the low post personnel we have, you just can't have long stretches of the game where you have two bigs (RA and MS, SS and MS, DC and MS, etc.) on the floor...if you want to score any points at all on the offensive end...We spread the floor and try to penetrate and kick for threes on offense...and for that offense to work, you need to have 3 guards and Theron on the floor a majority of the time...2 bigs in that setup is pretty redundant, as we usually just use one to set high ball screens to start the offense. In fact I saw several times last night when we had two bigs in the game where both bigs were running out to the same spot to try and set the same high ball screen...not very smooth offensive execution there.

I hate watching this team get outrebounded, too, believe me. But throwing a bunch of bigs on the floor at the same time just isn't the answer in the big picture...it would absolutely kill us on the offensive end over the long haul.
The fact of the matter is that even when we play our small lineup, we still have 4 guys on the floor that are 6'5" or taller. There's no reason that 4 guys that are 6'5", 6'5", 6'5", and 6'8" shouldn't be able to find a way to block out and at the very least be an adequate rebounding lineup...But for whatever reason, that hasn't been the case for most of the year this season.

I agree completely. Rebounding isn't just about one big guy getting all the rebounds. It's really a team concept like defense. I would only add that it's more difficult to rebound when in a zone or when the bigs have to help against a penetrating guard...two things that I noticed last night.

[BU ICEMAN]

2. With the offense we run and the low post personnel we have, you just can't have long stretches of the game where you have two bigs (RA and MS, SS and MS, DC and MS, etc.) on the floor...if you want to score any points at all on the offensive end...We spread the floor and try to penetrate and kick for threes on offense...and for that offense to work, you need to have 3 guards and Theron on the floor a majority of the time...2 bigs in that setup is pretty redundant, as we usually just use one to set high ball screens to start the offense. In fact I saw several times last night when we had two bigs in the game where both bigs were running out to the same spot to try and set the same high ball screen...not very smooth offensive execution there.

I was thinking the same thing last night watching the game. Why are we changing our offense and trying to run extended minutes with 2 big men in the game? Say what you will about the 4 guard/forward offense, but that's what we've been running all year and are comfortable in. I don't know what the rationale was for using 2 of our limited big men on the floor in extended stretches, but I would hope we don't see that tomorrow and go back to what has worked for us in the past this year.