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  • How Does Duke Always Get Calls Like This?

    Did anyone else see this?

    Watch Greg Paulus, and tell me he didn't just travel and take 3 steps, but he also stepped fully a foot and a half out of bounds,
    in full and clear view of the ref, who is standing FIVE feet away, and the ref lets him get away with it and never makes the call.
    Thankfully Duke get past West Virginia, but this is really a tragedy and a total theft of the game from Belmont.

    Horrible refs let dook (duke) beat Belmont in the first round of the 2008 NCAA Tournament.

  • #2
    Hey, here's another......UCLA barely escaped upset, but only because of a key stop in Texas A&M's final possession....or was it a "stop"

    Some think it might have just been a foul that UCLA got away with, kinda like Duke always seems to get away with murder...

    You decide, here are two photos of UCLA's defense on A&M's final - game tying shot-
    It's pretty obvious the shooter was fouled by two different defenders:




    One last question.....did Zach Andrews, or does Matt Salley ever get away with playing defense like this, grabbing a shooter's arm in his grasp?

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    • #3
      Watching that game, there were plenty of calls/no calls that Belmont got too, in the last 5 minutes.

      I don't think I've heard anybody mention this, but as a referee, when you see you've got a 15-2 game on your schedule, just like the higher seeded team, you're probably gonna relax a bit....then when all of a sudden your cake game starts looking like a dogfight (can you still use that expression?), whoa baby, I better get my stuff together here!

      As a final note, amazingly, the video was posted by a Maryland fan....
      A real fan celebrates the successes, but also acknowledges the failures of his team.

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      • #4
        I was OK with the no call there, but the UCLA bench should have been charged with a "T" after the steal that led to the dunk, as 2 players were clearly on the court after the steal and the manager had jumped onto the court from the baseline when the UCLA player went airborn.

        That was more disgraceful than the no-call.

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        • #5
          Here is another strange call--
          The last breakaway dunk by UCLA should not have counted. The ball had not left the player's hand when the light on the backboard lit up.
          The one ref on the side opposite the camera waved the basket off, and the officials conversed at the scorers table after the buzzer sounded. Even CBS initially reported the final score 53-49, but shortly after the game, on the crawl across the bottom of the screen showed a score of 51-49. But the official score has stayed 53-49.

          Now, I know it doesn't matter to most people. But the NCAA wants to get it right. That's why they instituted the rule about always reviewing baskets made at the buzzer. What if the gambling line was UCLA-3 points? There would be millions of angry bettors. The actual line was 9.5 to 10 points, so that didn't have any effect.

          Others are asking this same question-

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          • #6
            But how they could miss that Paulus out of bounds call is mystifying...as every one of the 8 people watching on the
            TV along with me immediately saw and proclaimed that the guy stepped a full foot out of bounds while still in full, visible, and obvious control of the ball.
            In fact, he not only comes down onto the floor out of bounds with the ball, he actually never even releases the ball until after he has jumped off the floor one more time.
            If the ref missed this one, he just wasn't even watching what he was supposed to.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by tornado View Post
              But how they could miss that Paulus out of bounds call is mystifying...as every one of the 8 people watching on the
              TV along with me immediately saw and proclaimed that the guy stepped a full foot out of bounds while still in full, visible, and obvious control of the ball.
              In fact, he not only comes down onto the floor out of bounds with the ball, he actually never even releases the ball until after he has jumped off the floor one more time.
              If the ref missed this one, he just wasn't even watching what he was supposed to.


              I agree but it also looked like Paulus was signaling for a time out while in mid-air with the ball. I just thought when I saw that happen live that the ref realized that he didn't blow his whistle in time to give Duke the time out so he gave Paulus a "makeup" call by letting everthing go.

              Either way, Duke got theirs against WVU. Glad Duke lost but wished it could have been to someone other than Huggins.........He really did outcoach Coach K, though.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                Here is another strange call--
                The last breakaway dunk by UCLA should not have counted. The ball had not left the player's hand when the light on the backboard lit up.
                The one ref on the side opposite the camera waved the basket off, and the officials conversed at the scorers table after the buzzer sounded. Even CBS initially reported the final score 53-49, but shortly after the game, on the crawl across the bottom of the screen showed a score of 51-49. But the official score has stayed 53-49.

                Now, I know it doesn't matter to most people. But the NCAA wants to get it right. That's why they instituted the rule about always reviewing baskets made at the buzzer. What if the gambling line was UCLA-3 points? There would be millions of angry bettors. The actual line was 9.5 to 10 points, so that didn't have any effect.

                Others are asking this same question-
                http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...3080016AAinvsL

                Guess the NCAA reads Bradleyfans DC

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                • #9
                  The no call on Paulus standing out of bounds with the ball is probably THE worst no call I've ever seens with regards to how clearly visible he was with regards to the position of the official. I couldn't believe it when it happened live, and after rewinding it, and pausing it, Paulus was literally 3-4 out of bounds with the ball, the ref maybe 8 feet from him staring directly at him, yet no call. It was a joke.
                  DUBL R 1

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                  • #10
                    For a fun, but meaningless stat:

                    For the 3rd year in a row, Bradley has played post season ball longer (in the calander year) than Duke!!!

                    05-06 I believe our S16 loss was minutes after Duke's S16 loss so our season lasted longer.
                    06-07 Duke lost (NCAA) on Mar 15, BU lost (NIT)on Mar 17
                    07-08 Duke already lost (NCAA) BU is still playing! (CBI)



                    (Of course making the NCAA's is a much bigger accomplishment)

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                    • #11
                      It was a bad call but there are bad calls all the time...I don't think it's just always in Duke's favor. G-town-Villanova game comes to mind as well.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Braves4Life View Post
                        Guess the NCAA reads Bradleyfans DC

                        http://cbs.sportsline.com/collegebas...story/10732665

                        Interesting that the NCAA took over 24 hours to rule the last dunk by UCLA was no good. It changes the score from 53-49 to 51-49. And as I mentioned above, it didn't change the betting on the score of the game, since UCLA was favored by a much larger margin.

                        But, there was one bet that changed. Most people don't know it, but you can bet on the second half score only. And by taking away the last basket by UCLA, it did change the result for those who bet on the 2nd half spread. I wonder if the casinos might have already paid out to some of those who bet on UCLA, who would have then lost if the final result had been ruled correctly right away?

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                        • #13
                          So does the NCAA need to make all results "unofficial" like auto racing? until the next day wwhen official results are announced?

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                          • #14
                            Maybe one of our members with expertise from the scorer's table can answer this, but I believe the official scorer makes the determination at the end of the game when he logs the final score. However, the NCAA must still have an indefinite time to correct any errors.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by lefty View Post
                              It was a bad call but there are bad calls all the time...I don't think it's just always in Duke's favor. G-town-Villanova game comes to mind as well.

                              Was that the Travel call?
                              DUBL R 1

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