As much as i despise ISU, I can't help but feel like they got the shaft. Shame we are a one bid league this year...
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ISU didn't have a chance to beat anyone, they should have scheduled harder, which ultimately was Jankovich's fault.Thinking is the hardest work, that is why so few people do it. -Henry Ford
Yeah...I've been in college for a while now and I'm pretty sure that awesomest is not a word. -Andrew E.
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Old Guard Get's a Grip on Things!
Looks like us mid majors have had our day and the 'old guard' has got things back under control! The obvious snub to the MVC and ISU is only outweighed by Butler's 7 seeding!
Oh well let's see if the mid majors get chased out of the NIT as well!
I'm ready for some baseball - Go SOX!
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Originally posted by ifarania View PostISU's schedule was weak, and I'm always happy when they fail.... But 3 teams in the NIT.. ISU will be a 1 seed..
I doubt it...#1's will likely be Arizona State, Virginia Tech, Florida State, and Syracuse. Mississippi and Ohio State are also in the mix for a #1.
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Originally posted by Tulsa Brave View PostI doubt it...#1's will likely be Arizona State, Virginia Tech, Florida State, and Syracuse. Mississippi and Ohio State are also in the mix for a #1.Here's the deal, Wyoming for football, Bradley for basketball.
Surviving Orwellian message boards since 1984
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The only way non-bcs teams can make a case is scheduling aways with BCS schools and winning some of them. Nobody likes having to do away games all the time with hard teams, but it has to be done to get the signature wins. Until more mid-majors start winning these games nothing will ever change.Thinking is the hardest work, that is why so few people do it. -Henry Ford
Yeah...I've been in college for a while now and I'm pretty sure that awesomest is not a word. -Andrew E.
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The RPI and the inclusion of the SOS are the exact things the NCAA devised to help the BCS guys strengthen their argument that even the 5-6th best team in the ACC and SEC are more deserving than the 2nd best team in the MVC.
So lets see how they held up to their own reasoning......
Argument #1...
we look at the RPI-
--ISU's RPI was 33, and yet Kentucky got in with an RPI of 57, K-State with an RPI of 50, and Texas A&M with a conference record of 8-8 and an RPI of 41.
Argument #2...
we look at how you did down the stretch....
--ISU played all the way to it's conference final and won 6 of their final 7, 8 of their final 10.
Oddly, Indiana lost 3 of their last 4 and looked terrible doing it, and lose out in the opening round of their tourney, yet they get a #8 seed, better than half the tourney field.
Davidson won their last 22 games, they won every conference game and go 20-0 in their conference, and they end up with a #10 seed.
And here's the laugher...Arizona still got a #10 seed despite losing 8 of their last 12 games (and two of their only 4 wins in that stretch were vs. Oregon State who lost every conference game) and exiting their conference tourney early!
Argument #3
we look at your SOS..especially who you played out of conference...
--ha, ha...this one is funny,
Stanford's (they got a #3 seed) non-conference SOS was 292!!! Washington State's (they got a #4 seed) is 193!!
Texas A&M's non-con SOS was 224!
Clemson (they got a #5 seed) had a non-conference SOS of 182!!
Kentucky's non-con SOS =100!
Purdue's was 268.
And Notre Dame's non-con SOS was 279!!!!!!! and they get a #5 seed.
One last comparison, then I'll shut up......
St. Joe's...21-12, 9-7 in conference, RPI=44, SOS=53, non-con SOS=118
ISU..........23-9, 13-5 in conference, RPI=33, SOS=71, non-con SOS=117
I ask...why does St. Joe's get an 11 seed, ISU gets left out?
Plain and simple.....
--BCS bias
--east coast bias
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The NCAA just loves the big names and the guys that get themselves into the
press even if they have to get into barfights to do it,that's why teams like
Memphis, K-State, Huggins' West Virginia, and USC all get favorable spots
They love the OJ Mayo's, Huggins', Joey Dorsey's, etc.....
...USC gets a 6 seed with 11 losses
.....West Virginia a 7 seed with 10 losses including a loss to Cincy
Memphis plays an awful lot of patsies!!
Drake gets criticized because of their weaker conference, but the MVC is stronger than the CUSA!!
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Some sarcasm by Gary Parrish of CBS about ISU--
"I hate that Illinois State did not make the field. Guess losing by 30 in your league title game is a killer."--
I though the RPI and the committee did not consider margins of losses?
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Originally posted by Da Coach View PostSome sarcasm by Gary Parrish of CBS about ISU--
"I hate that Illinois State did not make the field. Guess losing by 30 in your league title game is a killer."--
I though the RPI and the committee did not consider margins of losses?
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