Mid-majors vs. mid-majors

[Bradleyguy10]

Also, if you match 2 mid-majors it means that one will make it to the next round! If you split them, they both could lose.

mmmmm very good point.. can't really argue that except that on the opposite end they could both win haha..imagine the nightmares the NCAA would have if they had 2 mid-majors in the regional final..eliminate that risk right away by setting them up with each other

[SFP]

Also, if you match 2 mid-majors it means that one will make it to the next round! If you split them, they both could lose.

If they both win they both go to the next round. The better mids are playing each other and the BCS so so are palying the bottom mids. I am not sure if this was set up this way or it just worked out

[JBinPeoria]

I agree with SanFranciscoPete and BradleyGuy10. On top of what they say, I am very concerned about how the message the Committee sends to mid-majors year after year might hurt our recruiting and potential for growth as a program. Recruits that may come to Bradley will instead choose to play for really bad teams in power conferences because they see it as a higher percentage shot to play for a national championship.

[Bravesfan]

It is a coincidence.

I mean, you can give S. Alabama a 10 seed, where they are on the S-curve....or drop them solely to avoid a mid vs. mid matchup. It'd be unfair to drop USA just to avoid that.

It happens. It just happens.

I think this shows that while there are fewer mid-majors in the tournament these days, the ones there are very strong. Butler definately got shafted (what did they do differently this year from last year to deserve a 3 spot drop in the seedings!), but others did very well including Drake, Kent St and S. Alabama.

And I personally like mid vs. mid's because it gives several mids a guarantee of getting to within one game of the Sweet 16. If no mids play each other, there is no guarantee any will make the Sweet 16!

[Stryker]

Good recruits only care about publicity, tv, and coverage, at least the ones that think they have a chance of making it to the NBA. I agree that maybe more recruits will go for a middle of the pack BCS school than some of the better mid-majors.

[Bravesfan]

POLLS MEAN NOTHING

Never ever. Polls are worthless. For everybody.

Just curious if you feel that Butler got shafted. They finished 1-1 against the RPI top 50 and 11-3 against the RPI top 100. They have a better record than last year, won their conference outright and won their conference tournament. Yes they don't have those three meaty top 50 wins they had last year in the preseason NIT (Notre Dame, Gonzaga and Tennessee), but that is beyond their control.

With Drake's numbers similar this year to Butler's, how did Butler not get at least a five seed, or even a six seed?

[tornado]

Butler also got shafted by gettnig paired with one of the hottest non-BCS teams in the nation, South Alabama....who has won 22 of their last 25 games,
and rising to RPI 37, higher than almost half the NCAA field.

[georgethedog]

Just curious if you feel that Butler got shafted. They finished 1-1 against the RPI top 50 and 11-3 against the RPI top 100. They have a better record than last year, won their conference outright and won their conference tournament. Yes they don't have those three meaty top 50 wins they had last year in the preseason NIT (Notre Dame, Gonzaga and Tennessee), but that is beyond their control.

With Drake's numbers similar this year to Butler's, how did Butler not get at least a five seed, or even a six seed?

Drake beat them at Butler.

[mportsch]

Just curious if you feel that Butler got shafted. They finished 1-1 against the RPI top 50 and 11-3 against the RPI top 100.

I think you just explained why Butler didn't get a higher seed. They played TWO games all season against top 50 teams. Their one win was against the #49 team, Ohio State. I actually think their 7 seed is about right - that means the committee thinks Butler is in the 25-28 range nationally.

[TheAsianSensation]

Just curious if you feel that Butler got shafted. They finished 1-1 against the RPI top 50 and 11-3 against the RPI top 100. They have a better record than last year, won their conference outright and won their conference tournament. Yes they don't have those three meaty top 50 wins they had last year in the preseason NIT (Notre Dame, Gonzaga and Tennessee), but that is beyond their control.

With Drake's numbers similar this year to Butler's, how did Butler not get at least a five seed, or even a six seed?

They were overrated.

I had them as a 5, I can see the argument for 6.

[TRIMAN]

They were overrated.

I had them as a 5, I can see the argument for 6.

I'm glad that you had them there, I can sleep at night now.

A 6 makes a lot of sense for Butler if you give Drake a 5.

Also, as was said earlier, ppl are forced to use polls because there's no way that the selection committee can watch every game that every team plays all season. If they even saw 2 or 3 games from a lot of the teams, that would be really good. I just hope they watch more games than Packer. I'm not sure he watches any games unless he's working them. Maybe you can watch every game played in NCAA div 1 and then create your "S curve" to let teams into the tourney and not use any polls or RPI for help because they mean "nothing."

They obviously look at the polls somewhat since the #1 seeds are 1, 2, 3, and 5 in the AP and 1-4 in the ESPN poll. But they mean nothing. So that's cool. My bad. If only I had a magic curve to place teams where they belong.

Butler got screwed. SCREWED. I think Drake is a little low, but I honestly expected them to get screwed badly (like get a lower seed than Butler) so there's not much to complain about there.

ISU didn't beat anyone good this year so they don't really have a lot to complain about.

[Beninator]

They were overrated.

I had them as a 5, I can see the argument for 6.

Agree
Drake as a 5 is about right.imo Drake beat Butler this year at Butler so a 6 or 7 seed for Butler is about right as well.