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  • #31
    I check every morning, Murph, but I never see any crazy people in my mirror?

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    • #32
      I honestly don't see much wrong with Wessler's column. Most of what he reported was right on and he left out Will and POB's situation in '06 (like DRD noted). The only issue is the Suggs drug test which I don't think is that big of a deal. Did everyone stop reading before his conclusion to log on and bash the guy? He said it's not a renegade program! Give him a break.
      I don't smoke weed...I smoke dudes like you on the bball court

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      • #33
        I was told that the failed drug test was the final straw. It wasn't a hidden fact that Mike Suggs had a good time in college (like most of us).

        I've always gotten the impression that Kirk Wessler wants more from the Bradley program. It's moving in the right direction, but Evansville, Indiana State and now Drake have hoisted the Valley trophy since Bradley last did.
        1996 & 2019

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        • #34
          I agree with you JMoney. There have been columns I disagreed with in the past, but he is right on this one. The perception may be out there, but BU is not a renegade program. That's all KW is saying.

          Renegade suggests the coaches are cheating intentionally and trying to get away with it (ala Kelvin Sampson), or recruiting thugs and criminals and thumbing their noses at the administration and others (ala UNLV, Cincinnati, or anywhere Bob Huggins goes). There is nothing remotely like that at Bradley. The POB/WF thing was unfortunate, but by no way was it an attempt to cheat the system. The NCAA agreed it was an innocent clerical error that wouldn't have even been known about except Bradley brought it to the NCAA's attention. And despite everything that was made about the Theron Wilson speeding ticket, He and TCS are good kids and I can cite problems much worse than that at 300+ other schools. And we'll have to wait a little longer for a resolution to the DR situation, but Jim Les cannot be implicated in that either. DR is a model citizen, and as everyone, including Kirk Wessler seems to know, there is more to that story than was reported.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
            I agree with you JMoney. There have been columns I disagreed with in the past, but he is right on this one. The perception may be out there, but BU is not a renegade program. That's all KW is saying.
            So you believe KW was getting asked by a lot of different people if BU/JL was running a renegade program?

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            • #36
              Originally posted by tornado View Post
              I check every morning, Murph, but I never see any crazy people in my mirror?

              I do when I look....

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Dallas Brave View Post
                So you believe KW was getting asked by a lot of different people if BU/JL was running a renegade program?
                That part I do not believe....that was probably partially fabricated to get a good lead for his story. I'm sure he has friends and colleagues around the country though who did give him a call after the Whellington bit was posted, just maybe not to the extent the opening line suggests.
                I don't smoke weed...I smoke dudes like you on the bball court

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                • #38
                  article

                  The bottom line is,it was poor judgement on KW for writing that article..He is using another
                  journalist article to stir up s*** in the program!! IMO he does not like JL for what ever reason and whenever he gets a chance to make him or BU look bad he ceases the moment..Kw is an ******************** for writing this article!!!!!

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by tornado View Post
                    There certainly are people who would disagree witbh you on this.
                    Unions that release medical info have come under HIPPA scrutiny, and so have state organizations that are not healthcare providers.
                    Even a police report that is made public has fallen under scrutiny, but....

                    .. probably the reigning fact is that virtually nobody anywhere in the nation has yet to fear the HIPPA law, simply because it is an orphan law with no federal agency to either investigate or pursue violators.

                    But again...the topic, if we could only stick to it, is that it most certainly is as much a violation of common standards for a journalist to openly and publicly discuss someone's private and protected medical report as it is for a doctor or a nurse to do it.
                    Its an interesting point...and I'm sure no expert on HIPPA...

                    But obviously KW learned about the positive test from someone....probably a source within the university. Wouldn't that "source" be the person who is responsible for the disclosure...not the writer who reported on it? A slightly related example for comparison maybe is the SF writers who reported on Barry Bonds sealed GJ testimony. They didn't leak the testimony themselves...it was given to them by a source who was the person who may or may not have violated GJ secrecy laws.

                    Reports have the 1st Amendment to rely on...assuming they don't OBTAIN the information they're reporting on by illegal means. Like if KW broke into the athletic department and rifled around in files to find the report of the positive test.

                    Secondly...does a school-administered drug test fall under HIPPA to begin with?

                    Anyone else off work due to Pulaski day? I guess Chicago the only place that sees fit to honor the Poles...

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by VromanFan View Post
                      I guess Chicago the only place that sees fit to honor the Poles...
                      Let's keep it clean here VromanFan...enough of those pot shots at the north side!
                      Onward and Upward!

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                      • #41
                        Wow I remember getting off work for Pulaski day in grade school I guess Cat doesn't follow the Catholic grade school off-day policy unfortunately.
                        I don't smoke weed...I smoke dudes like you on the bball court

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                        • #42
                          I teach at a Catholic school....not off today! My kids go to a different Catholic school and they are not off either!
                          Some see a hopeless end, while others see an endless hope.

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                          • #43
                            What's Next, Men's Soccer?

                            Did KW and LUCY also here rumblings about other 'renigade' sports at Bradley?

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by VromanFan View Post
                              Secondly...does a school-administered drug test fall under HIPPA to begin with?
                              Yes, well It would fall under either the HIPAA or the FERPA acts. Both of which are privacy acts, on is Protected Health Information, the other protects students personal information
                              Bradley Basketball... One Tradition; Underachievement. 2008-Current.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by BU_EMT128 View Post
                                Yes, well It would fall under either the HIPAA or the FERPA acts. Both of which are privacy acts, on is Protected Health Information, the other protects students personal information
                                Thanks for the info.

                                And BBrave...I think the day your referring to comes later in the year....and there might be a parade (so I've heard)...

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