2/27 - Will Franklin's side of the story.. Interesting.....

[SFP]

Why?

They are just as much to blame as our administration. I'm sure they had all the same information as the paper and they also did not do the right thing. If the administration gives DR the green light to play than the PJS would have been forced to react much sooner. PJS has no loyalty to BU or any other instsution but their own. They can choose when it is the best time to release thier stories as they see fit. The Administration at BU though should have never played the PR game in this situation. Again look what happened at Duke. Sometimes you just have to do what you believe is the right thing regardles of consequences.

[IheartBU]

I think Scouter's point was valid -- not everyone at the JS, and I know several of them (mostly little people who don't have the notoriety or visibility of Phil or KW), is out to get Bradley. In fact, most of the ones I know are alums with strong ties to BU.

That being said, I disagree with Phil's column's tone, especially as a former student who generally likes him as a person and respects him as a journalist. As I learned in his class, this particular column could be referred to as yellow journalism.

[shaunguth]

The PJS' behavior in all of this is a sad testament to the professionalism and ethics of the people working there.

That's a pretty broad statement though! I'm sure there are many people employed at the rag that need a source of income.

[Scouter]

Read Luciano's article today and you may begin to understand....

Luciano's column today is a joke. I was referring more to the story about Will's statement to the police.

They are just as much to blame as our administration. I'm sure they had all the same information as the paper and they also did not do the right thing. If the administration gives DR the green light to play than the PJS would have been forced to react much sooner. PJS has no loyalty to BU or any other instsution but their own. They can choose when it is the best time to release thier stories as they see fit. The Administration at BU though should have never played the PR game in this situation. Again look what happened at Duke. Sometimes you just have to do what you believe is the right thing regardles of consequences.

I'm not sure what that has to do with the PJS' ethics or professionalism. Your argument is more about BU playing the PR game in this situation, which, believe it or not, they handled correctly IMO.

Also, do some people really think the PJS had this story on Saturday when "many" people already knew this side of the story?

Let me get this straight: People think the PJS had this well in advance, in a competitive place like the world of media, the biggest story in the town, involving the most visible team in town and its star point guard. And instead of publishing it right away, they sit on it and give other media outlets the chance to get the same story? Highly doubtful.

[tornado]

It would have taken a Houdini-like effort to have escaped hearing the story many of us heard Saturday at the game, and of course,
Will Franklin was prominently visible in the arena and could have easily been approached for a comment.
I know nothing more than that, and yet even the police statement about the injury occurring when Ruffin tried to get the woman to leave his apartment,
this info was also available Saturday, but none of this was ever reported by the PJ Star until Wednesday morning.


Please review this time line and see the reports in many,many media about the lip injury, and it comes direct from Peoria Police spokespeople, but is never reported locally!
Note also that the quote of the police spokesperson never mentions the choking.

http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?t=7184&highlight=lip

[SFP]

Let me get this straight: People think the PJS had this well in advance, in a competitive place like the world of media, the biggest story in the town, involving the most visible team in town and its star point guard. And instead of publishing it right away, they sit on it and give other media outlets the chance to get the same story? Highly doubtful.

Scouter I was not blaming the PJS but the administration for not bring this to light sooner if they indeed had this information before last night! Yes the PJS would sit on it because who else outside Peoria is trying to get the scoop! If the BU administration comes forward earlier than the PJS would have had to put it in print.

And did the BU admin. play the PR game correctly? That is what I am talking about that the school in this circumstance should not be playing a PR game but they should be doing what is right and that is if they knew of the circumstance of the event before last nights game DR should have played PERIOD! That would have been the right thing to do PERIOD, not the right PR move!

[Scouter]

Scouter I was not blaming the PJS but the administration for not bring this to light sooner if they indeed had this information before last night! Yes the PJS would sit on it because who else outside Peoria is trying to get the scoop! If the BU administration comes forward earlier than the PJS would have had to put it in print.

I was referring to local media. You know, like WEEK, WMBD (radio and TV) and WHOI.

[Scouter]

It would have taken a Houdini-like effort to have escaped hearing the story many of us heard Saturday at the game, and of course,
Will Franklin was prominently visible in the arena and could have easily been approached for a comment.
I know nothing more than that, and yet even the police statement about the injury occurring when Ruffin tried to get the woman to leave his apartment,
this info was also available Saturday, but none of this was ever reported by the PJ Star until Wednesday morning.


Please review this time line and see the reports in many,many media about the lip injury, and it comes direct from Peoria Police spokespeople, but is never reported locally!
Note also that the quote of the police spokesperson never mentions the choking.
http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread...&highlight=lip

So you think if Dave Reynolds or Kirk Wessler just walked up to Will Franklin on Saturday, he would've voluntarily told him what happened??? HA! Good luck...

Like the story said, the PJS got its information from the police report, via the Freedom of Information Act. It can sometimes take days for a request to go through. Police can even take out parts of the report, just like they took out Ruffin's statement to police after the incident.

[shaunguth]

I was under the impression the university was doing their own investigation. How is it they missed the same facts the pjs has conveniently missed in the past four days?

[BU_EMT128]

So you think if Dave Reynolds or Kirk Wessler just walked up to Will Franklin on Saturday, he would've voluntarily told him what happened??? HA! Good luck...

Like the story said, the PJS got its information from the police report, via the Freedom of Information Act. It can sometimes take days for a request to go through. Police can even take out parts of the report, just like they took out Ruffin's statement to police after the incident.

This is a reply from Jerry Smith at the JS to a post on PL's column.

"In fairness to all concerned, neither Phil Luciano nor our reporters were given access to Danny Ruffin's original statement to police. The police purposely excluded Danny Ruffin's statement originally, saying that his statement would harm the prosecution. The Journal Star was given a copy of the statement only after filing a request through the Freedom of Information Act. The Journal Star reported that information as soon as we could."

[Scouter]

This is a reply from Jerry Smith at the JS to a post on PL's column.

"In fairness to all concerned, neither Phil Luciano nor our reporters were given access to Danny Ruffin's original statement to police. The police purposely excluded Danny Ruffin's statement originally, saying that his statement would harm the prosecution. The Journal Star was given a copy of the statement only after filing a request through the Freedom of Information Act. The Journal Star reported that information as soon as we could."

Did I not just say that?

[BU_EMT128]

Did I not just say that?

You sure did

[Scouter]

You sure did

OK?

[BU_EMT128]

OK?

Lets get this straight... I am SUPPORTING your point, not disagreeing.

[Scouter]

Lets get this straight... I am SUPPORTING your point, not disagreeing.

OK, thank you. Glad we got that sorted out. I wasn't quite sure what you were getting at.