The Story Seems to Change

[tornado]

First it was battery/hands and feet, then it was choking, now it is "busted lip"
but nobody has yet seen documentation of any injuries.
But lips get split by accident all the time, and nobody is liable.

[Scouter]

You don't reserve the right to split someone's lip, however, in the process of removing someone from your place of residence.

Very true, ER3. Split lip, choked, use of hands and feet, whatever. Something allegedly happened that night.

Why the story continues to change is beyond me. I've never seen a story change so much in 48 hours. Maybe the other media outlets called the police for information instead of looking at the police report, meaning the PJS cited the report for its information and the other outlets just said "Police say..." I dunno.

[Scouter]

First it was battery/hands and feet, then it was choking, now it is "busted lip"
but nobody has yet seen documentation of any injuries.
But lips get split by accident all the time, and nobody is liable.

Because the person who gets their lip split doesn't go to the cops. Duh.

[mike radigan]

I don't have the answer to your question, but there are five moderators and two people who function as administrators.

Wasn't me.

[ER3]

See, I disagree here. If Ruffin says he's innocent then I don't see any reason to keep him off the court until he's found guilty of something. Continuing to suspend him when there's some doubt as to his innocence, is the same thing as considering him guilty until proven innocent.

Well, unfortunately there is more to this story than Ruffin's claims. Ruffin's accuser, a fellow BU student, claims he is not innocent.
I think it would be a very slippery slope for BU's position to be "our basketball player said nothing happened...so we're going to believe him and we have some games to win, so we're reinstating him"...I wish it were that simple, and I wish they would reinstate him...but I think that is a long shot. Just my opinion.
The University will take his story into account, they will take her story into account...and then I'm sure they will gather statements from every witness that was there when the incident occurred. If, in fact, these witnesses (and hopefully there are some witnesses that aren't directly connected to the BU basketball program) completely support Daniel's version of the events...then I don't see any reason that they can't use the whole "innocent until proven guilty" card and reinstate him. However, if they don't find evidence that supports Ruffin's story, I don't think there is any way that they can reinstate him.
The University suspended him when the incident occurred...so, at that point, I think they gave up their right to "assume his innocence and simply let him play until he is proven guilty"...The only way they can unsuspend him now, IMO, would be if they review the details of the incident and find that there is no reason to believe that he did anything wrong. There is not an option, IMO, for them to review the case and decide "well, we have evidence here that makes us believe that he could very well be guilty of assault in this case, but we're going to go ahead and let him play through it and let the courts decide things after the season is over."

[BU_EMT128]

Does he have a court appearance today?

[SFP]

Does he have a court appearance today?

I read on another thread that there is a court appearance at 3 PM. Know one knew exactly for what.

BTW. ER3 is probably spot on.

[Beninator]

BTW. ER3 is probably spot on.

I agree with ER3 as well.

[MacabreMob]

Does he have a court appearance today?

I read on another thread that there is a court appearance at 3 PM. Know one knew exactly for what.

BTW. ER3 is probably spot on.

I thought I had read something of that as well.

What do you suppose that would be about?

[BUBraves06]

I hope he is allowed to talk and I hope we hear his side of the story this evening.

I duno about that. I'm sure he would be advised not to talk to the media while the case is still pending, isn't that what attornies usually tell their clients?

[BradleyBrave]

I duno about that. I'm sure he would be advised not to talk to the media while the case is still pending, isn't that what attornies usually tell their clients?

Yes, which makes it all the more curious that his accuser has spoken to both the PJ Star and to WYZZ already.

[BUBraves06]

Yes, which makes it all the more curious that his accuser has spoken to both the PJ Star and to WYZZ already.

I found it odd too, it almost seems like she feels the need to defend herself. Maybe she's valid in defending herself though with all the different versions of the story that are out.

[J Money]

Yes, which makes it all the more curious that his accuser has spoken to both the PJ Star and to WYZZ already.

I don't think it's that crazy that this girl has spoken to the media. She's a 20 year old college student who reported what she believes was a crime. She probably hasn't even talked to a lawyer at this point and when someone called her and asked her what happened she told them.

[daPAWW1]

Agree, agree but....

I certainly agree with everything posted on this thread and everyone has made some very valid points, however when it comes to situations like this - either in school, at work or in the home the accused in these cases is virtually guilty from the onset because our society has simply been forced to make these situations 'zero tolerance'! Examples include 7 yr old boys suspended from school for kissing a girl during recess, male employees fired for their comments in front of a female employee, and etc. I like most of you don't know what happened but unfortunately something happened - his fault, her fault but whatever it was it boils down to she said with a cut lip - and in our societies book today - he's guilty and that won't be erased by what we all say and want to happen for Daniel!

I just hope that Bradley shows some compassion towards Daniel and his family and at least allows him to participate in the pre-game senior night events with his family! I like most of you all beleive Daniel to be a great young man - unfortunately bad things sometimes happen to good people!

[Dub]

I don't believe anyone else has posted this yet:

The administration could go ahead and assume him guilty until proven innocent, and punish him right away. I believe there is precedent at BU for punishments related to a misdemeanor such as battery (i.e. Jabbar Battle?). In this case, there would probably be a 2 game suspension and the player would be back after a first offense.

What benefit would BU have in waiting for the entire legal process to play out, when the potential punishment from a guilty verdict would likely be less than what would result from "waiting out the system."?? This is a misdemeanor charge!