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I dont want that cheating crap up here no matter how bad the Bulls are doing.
Oh come on. I'm not defending Sampson because he is an ******************** for doing it again after already getting caught but the guy made impermissable phone calls. It's not like his players are getting in fights and attacking fans with no repercussions (Calipari) or involved in shootings. He's a great game coach as he's proven over time and I don't think the NBA is going to monitor his Sprint bill.
I don't smoke weed...I smoke dudes like you on the bball court
Porters history would have nothing to do with any such decision to go to ISU. If it did, he would go to St. Louis, not the school that fired Moser.
And ISU has about a hundred shooting guards, I think, and beside that, they have no available scholarships. I think that would make a difference to the Roths. I can't see him walking-on. I would be very surprised if Matt Roth would consider ISU.
Well, it will take a long healing process before my deep, passionate hatred for IU ever subsides, but this is a start. Not that firing him now is really going to do too much. IU will still make the tournament.
Just curious...if Kelvin Sampson wasn't the reason you have a deep hatred for IU basketball what was it? Just the rivalry with U of I, Bobby Knight? The 5 national Championships hanging in a building with the same name as the one in Champaign (which by the way has none)? sorry about the cheap shot i'm just wondering.
I don't smoke weed...I smoke dudes like you on the bball court
If Roth decommited do we even have/want to use a scholarship on another guard?
I think we would obviously like to have a solid big fall into our laps but having Matt Roth would be great for the program. He would put people in the seats for 4 years in the same manner that Daniel and Jeremy have. There's something about home-grown talent and let's not forget that he would be the star of our class.
I don't smoke weed...I smoke dudes like you on the bball court
If Roth decommited do we even have/want to use a scholarship on another guard?
If Roth decommits and indicates that he wants to come to BU...Yes, we absolutely, positively will want to use a scholarship on him.
Say what you want about Roth...but the kid has an elite, elite skill when it comes to shooting the basketball. And Sampson believed him to be capable of playing in the Big Ten...
So, if you are a team like BU that has built your offensive system around the 3-point shot...and if one of the absolute best H.S. shooters in the nation wants to come here...yes, you immediately hand him a LOI and a pen before he gets a chance to rethink it...
There is no one else currently in our recruiting class that is a better prospect than Roth.
If Roth decommits and indicates that he wants to come to BU...Yes, we absolutely, positively will want to use a scholarship on him.
Say what you want about Roth...but the kid has an elite, elite skill when it comes to shooting the basketball. And Sampson believed him to be capable of playing in the Big Ten...
So, if you are a team like BU that has built your offensive system around the 3-point shot...and if one of the absolute best H.S. shooters in the nation wants to come here...yes, you immediately hand him a LOI and a pen before he gets a chance to rethink it...
Sampson offered Roth because he wanted Tyler Zeller. I would rather have Simms-Edwards if I had a choice between the two. If Roth wants to walk-on, great. Otherwise lets go get a big man and a Zack Novak-type, who can do more than just shoot 15 3's a game.
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Sampson offered Roth because he wanted Tyler Zeller. I would rather have Simms-Edwards if I had a choice between the two. If Roth wants to walk-on, great. Otherwise lets go get a big man and a Zack Novak-type, who can do more than just shoot 15 3's a game.
You want Roth to walk-on at BU? That's plain silly. That's not gonna happen.
I don't dispute that there can be valid questions about Roth being a bit one-dimensional...but that one dimension is as good as any kid being recruited anywhere in the nation right now. And with a BU system in place that calls for 20 to 30 three pointers per game, I want Roth on my team if we are going to run that offense.
Hey, Zack Novak would be nice...Marshall Henderson would be nice...Chris Babb would be nice...etc., etc, etc. But Novak looks to have Big Ten offers coming for him...Henderson has a Gonzaga offer...Babb has Big 12 offers and Vandy showing interest...so I would have to say it would be an unwise recruiting strategy to sit back and wait for one of those guys...becuase they are all probably aiming higher than BU at this point.
We are losing JC and DR this year...so we need shooters going forward...McCain and Roberts may be nice players, but I don't think either guy projects to be an unbelievable shooter...
Sampson offered Roth because he wanted Tyler Zeller. I would rather have Simms-Edwards if I had a choice between the two. If Roth wants to walk-on, great. Otherwise lets go get a big man and a Zack Novak-type, who can do more than just shoot 15 3's a game.
I see your point but we went after Roth so hard that I would assume that if he reopens his recruiting we'd go after him. Our offense is based around the 3-point shot and from our recruiting already done I think it's safe to say that our coaching staff feels comfortable with the bigs we'll have for the next few years, hence going after two guards. Even if we sign Roth, which I think would be a great thing, we'd still have one more scholarship to go after a big man.
I see your point but we went after Roth so hard that I would assume that if he reopens his recruiting we'd go after him. Our offense is based around the 3-point shot and from our recruiting already done I think it's safe to say that our coaching staff feels comfortable with the bigs we'll have for the next few years, hence going after two guards. Even if we sign Roth, which I think would be a great thing, we'd still have one more scholarship to go after a big man.
We didn't go after him as hard as people think, and he wasn't a make-or-break recruit. We offered him very early and kept in contact with him like we did several other recruits. A kid like Zach Novak is much more like a JC, who we're ultimately trying to replace. Roth is not. Roth would have a career similar to an Aaron Zobrist or Danny Adams, i.e. by the time he's a junior or senior might be able to start.
And he's home-grown talent that would put butts in the seats and create a buzz around the program.
I really don't care where a kid is from. Albeck had a team full of Peoria kids and we stunk, and no one went to the games. If we stunk with Ruff and JC no one would go either. Winning puts butts in the seats, nothing else.
You want Roth to walk-on at BU? That's plain silly. That's not gonna happen.
I don't dispute that there can be valid questions about Roth being a bit one-dimensional...but that one dimension is as good as any kid being recruited anywhere in the nation right now. And with a BU system in place that calls for 20 to 30 three pointers per game, I want Roth on my team if we are going to run that offense.
Hey, Zack Novak would be nice...Marshall Henderson would be nice...Chris Babb would be nice...etc., etc, etc. But Novak looks to have Big Ten offers coming for him...Henderson has a Gonzaga offer...Babb has Big 12 offers and Vandy showing interest...so I would have to say it would be an unwise recruiting strategy to sit back and wait for one of those guys...becuase they are all probably aiming higher than BU at this point.
We are losing JC and DR this year...so we need shooters going forward...McCain and Roberts may be nice players, but I don't think either guy projects to be an unbelievable shooter...
I only said 'walk-on' because we don't have an available scholarship for a stand-still shooter IMO. We need a big and ideally a big, versatile guard to replace JC. Roth is not big, nor is he versatile at all. He's a stand-still shooter who isn't athletic and can do little else at this point in time. Perhaps by the time he's a junior or senior he could develop other parts of his game like Aaron Zobrist did, but until that point he's a stand-still shooter. We've got a 6'7" kid who's a walk-on who fits that bill as well, and we're pretty well set with AW and Sam taking 2 guard spots for the next few years, so MR would have a tough time finding significant minutes right away. I'd like to have a local kid who succeeds at BU as much as the next guy, but I think people have an over-inflated view of what MR really is and really can be. He could eventually excel and find a real role in Jim Les' current system. It wouldn't be right away though.
We didn't go after him as hard as people think, and he wasn't a make-or-break recruit. We offered him very early and kept in contact with him like we did several other recruits.
I agree, BB. From what I hear, Roth kept BU on his list of finalists as more of a courtesy. He already had his mind made up to go to IU long before he made the announcement.
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