Carlwell quits Illinois

[BUBraves06]

I don't think it would be a bad idea to at least see if he was interseted in BU. Hopefully he is fully recovered and gets back to what he was a few years ago, wherever he lands.

[Da Coach]

John Supinie's article is linked above, and in it he suggested--
Speculation has circulated for weeks that Carlwell would transfer to either Illinois-Chicago, a handful of miles east of his home, or Illinois State, where his brother Ronnie played.


But the version of the article that actually appears in today's Peoria Journal Star never mentions the part about Carlwell resurfacing at UIC or ISU--
Illinois center says he plans to transfer

http://pjstar.com/stories/022108/ILL_BFRHHH61.077.php

[basketball nut]

I would think that many schools might very well be interested in taking a chance in him. Just think of it this way-you are getting a player w/ 2 or possibly 3 years left and he comes in at a time when most kids his age are getting ready to graduate. His first year to play would actaully be his senior year of college. This would have given him 2 complete years to get himself into shape to be ready to play.
The one thing in all of this is how much damage to him emotionally did that accident do-could he handle the pressure of D-1 BB anymore-if he can handle the pressure he will be worth having on your team-if not he becomes a wasted scholarship-that is is the decision any coach will have to make and then live w/ either way-if he handles the pressure the coach looks like a genius and if he doesn't it could cost a coach his job depending how much stock he is putting into the player.

[BradleyBrave]

Has he re-learned how to run yet?

Weber March 2007:

"...he??™s just kind of coming back ??¦ learning how to walk, run, jump, catch, all of those things."

I have heard that Weber has overblown Carlwell's 'shortcomings' from the car accident because he didn't want him around anymore. He had a bad concussion, but I don't think he was the slobbering vegetable Weber has tried to make him out to be.

[tornado]

Can a player still transfer to a DII during the sit-out year (Stemler)?

Lance Stemler never went to a D-II school. He started at junior college but redshirted his freshman season. Then, since was a qualifer out of high school, he came to BU as a redshirt freshman and used his first season of eligibility. Then when he left BU, he went back and played his sophomore season at junior college again, and now is finishing the last of two seasons at IU.

He'll sit out next season, then have at least 2 years remaining......

Carlwell actually has at least FOUR options.........

--transfer to another D-I and sit out 2008-2009 then play in 2009-2010.
If he is granted a medical redshirt for this present season, then he would still have 3 years of athletic eligibility remaining.

--transfer to a D-II and he would become immediately eligible, and should have three years left

--if he is granted a medical redshirt for this season (and he might know that for sure by this summer, even as slow as the NCAA works), then he could [B]enroll in a junior college, be immediately eligible.
This fall (2008-2009) would be his redshirt-sophomore season (kinda like what Lance Stemler did), then he'd be able to go to a D-I school in 2009-1010 as a junior and have two seasons of D-I eligibility.
I actually think this is his best option, because it allows him to play right away this fall, something he NEEDS to do since he hasn't played much since finishing high school in 2006, and it also gives him a strong probability of getting back to decent playing form and then latching on at a decent D-I school for his final two years.

--quit, turn pro, or go NAIA

[cpacmel]

--transfer to another D-I and sit out 2008-2009 then play in 2009-2010.
If he is granted a medical redshirt for this present season, then he would still have 3 years of athletic eligibility remaining.

Are you sure about this Tornado? Wouldn't he only have 2 years of eligiblity left?

The way I see it: If he is granted a medical redshirt, then he loses a year while sitting out his transfer year. (when players transfer, they are giving up their right to any redshirt years, barring an appeal for extreme circumstances)

So he either re-enters the D-I basketball scene as: a redshirt JR or a regular JR.

Which makes no difference, because he has only 2 years left regardless.

5 years to play 4.

[tornado]

you are correct, but after those 5 years he should be able, if academically sound, be able to request a 6th year from NCAA to complete his 4th season of athletic eligibility.
It would NOT be the same as the Bryson case as he lost a year to academics, but more like these cases that were granted.

Several of these are quite recent (within the past month) showing the NCAA is inclined to be generous as long as none of the years was lost to academics.

http://www.nola.com/lsu/t-p/football/index.ssf?/base/sports-2/120279738451810.xml&coll=1

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/football/ncaa/02/07/tennessee.gaines.ap/index.html?eref=si_ncaaf

http://www.wiuathletics.com/ViewArticle.dbml?SPSID=50026&SPID=4963&DB_OEM_ID=12000&ATCLID=1365574

http://www.soonersports.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/012908aaa.html

and there are quite a few involving kids who lost a year to transfer

http://www.morganton.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=MNH%2FMGArticle%2FWSJ_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1173353399347&path=!statenews

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=92567

And most will recall University of Illinois quarterback Jon Beutjer

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-1533581.html

[cpacmel]

Most of the time a player gets a 6th year, is because of 2 years on injuries. (in the link above, that is what happened with the NAU player).

[tornado]

I agree....but I found several examples of kids who lost one year to transfer and another to injury....

http://www.morganton.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=MNH%2FMGArticle%2FWSJ_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1173353399347&path=!statenews

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=92567

[tornado]

There are some rumors of Carlwell to SIU, but the problem is that they don't have an open scholarship unless someone leaves.

http://www.salukitalk.net/st/recruiting/BBallGrid.cfm?uid=875

[Murph]

There are some rumors of Carlwell to SIU, but the problem is that they don't have an open scholarship unless someone leaves.
http://www.salukitalk.net/st/recruit...id.cfm?uid=875

Where are these rumors coming from?

[tornado]

on the Illinois message boards

[ph]

on the Illinois message boards

So is Bruce steering him that way so he does not have to schedule SIU for another few years?