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  • #31
    Originally posted by ER3 View Post
    Your logic is flawed. The coaching staff tried to bring in decent JC big men (like Zach) when they recruited #22 and #4. Neither of those guys has brought as much to the team as Zach did in his two years here.
    But you make your statement as if the coaching staff can simply go out and choose to recruit a JC big man that they know will provide at least what Zach Andrews did. It obviously isn't that simple. I highly doubt that the coaching staff's rationale behind recruiting #4 was "Man, we could really use a 7-footer that can sit down at the end of the bench for us and provide 0 quality minutes after December"...
    Here ... Go anyalze this (o).

    Can someone not make a simple post around here without people taking and turning it and twisting it around into something it wasn't meant to be?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Dallas Brave View Post
      Here ... Go anyalze this (o).

      Can someone not make a simple post around here without people taking and turning it and twisting it around into something it wasn't meant to be?
      I'll pass on the anal-ysis...thanks for the offer though.

      Nobody is twisting anything around...You said: plug in a big JC guy like Zach and we will be good to go...
      We merely pointed out that it obviously isn't that simple. You try to recruit players like Zach and POB every year...and unfortunately, most of those attempts end up being more like #4, #22, or Xavier Crawford.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by ER3 View Post
        I'll pass on the anal-ysis...thanks for the offer though.

        Nobody is twisting anything around...You said: plug in a big JC guy like Zach and we will be good to go...
        We merely pointed out that it obviously isn't that simple. You try to recruit players like Zach and POB every year...and unfortunately, most of those attempts end up being more like #4, #22, or Xavier Crawford.
        It is simple. I was stating a very simple and clear premise. I said a guy like Zach. Assuming that we are talking about the same thing - i.e., basketball playing ability. I did not say a guy that looks like Zach, but can't play like Zach. So, if you believe that #4, #22, or XC are not like Zach, then you also understand that I was not referring to them.

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        • #34
          It seems like lately there has been a lot of concern around here, and for the most part I think it's justifiable, but I'm just wondering what do you guys see as solutions to our concerns?
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          • #35
            Originally posted by Dallas Brave View Post
            It is simple. I was stating a very simple and clear premise. I said a guy like Zach. Assuming that we are talking about the same thing - i.e., basketball playing ability. I did not say a guy that looks like Zach, but can't play like Zach. So, if you believe that #4, #22, or XC are not like Zach, then you also understand that I was not referring to them.
            Fair enough...using your oversimplified approach to the recruiting process, the way to fix BU's problems is quite simple. I can't believe I never thought of this sooner!!! Thanks for enlightening me!!!
            All we need for next year is to be able to plug in a center like POB, a shooting guard like Hersey Hawkins, and a couple of wing players like Anthony Parker and Danny Granger to go along with Maniscalco and I think we could win a title next year...
            Go ahead and pass this simple request along to Coach Les and let him know that we'll do our part by clearing some space in the rafters for all those championship banners...
            Thanks.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by BUBraves06 View Post
              It seems like lately there has been a lot of concern around here, and for the most part I think it's justifiable, but I'm just wondering what do you guys see as solutions to our concerns?
              Graft SS's head (BB intelligence and desire) onto DC's (7' highly athletic) body?

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              • #37
                Originally posted by BUBraves06 View Post
                It seems like lately there has been a lot of concern around here, and for the most part I think it's justifiable, but I'm just wondering what do you guys see as solutions to our concerns?
                Well, I think we all agree that BU can not expect to land the sure-thing big man out of HS. Those guys go to the Ohio States, Dukes, Kansas, and UCLAs of the world. Therefore, we will always need to recruit the "project" player at the big man slot and hope that he develops into a player who can contribute. Consequently, the one thing that JL can control is having a coaching staff that is adept in teaching fundamentals to big guys because that is the type of recruit we will land.

                Is this coaching staff capable of coaching big guys??? I don't know and don't care to speculate beacuse I'm not in a postion to. One would have to be knowledgeable on big guy training techniques and be able to observe practices to know whther the failure for some players to develop (e.g., DC) is a function of his limitations or the limitations of the coaching staff. I don't know how to coach big men and I don't get to watch practices. So, as a program supporter and fan and a JL supporter, I will trust that he has assembled a decent set of coaches. I will also trust him to adjust his coaching staff if he needs to.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by ER3 View Post
                  Fair enough...using your oversimplified approach to the recruiting process, the way to fix BU's problems is quite simple. I can't believe I never thought of this sooner!!! Thanks for enlightening me!!!
                  All we need for next year is to be able to plug in a center like POB, a shooting guard like Hersey Hawkins, and a couple of wing players like Anthony Parker and Danny Granger to go along with Maniscalco and I think we could win a title next year...
                  Go ahead and pass this simple request along to Coach Les and let him know that we'll do our part by clearing some space in the rafters for all those championship banners...
                  Thanks.
                  I didn't say or imply any of those things. You are off on a wild tangent again.

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                  • #39
                    Simply put yes they will. The question is really when. I say when they have the team that can score in the inside and rebound. Let's just assume we will always have better than average guards what we never seem to have are big men that can dominate. We will need more than one and JL will need to play the two at the same time for long periods of time.

                    I know there are some Gary William bashers but what MD is doing in the 2nd part of the season is what I thought we should be doing. The difference is GW plays his 2 bigs together for big minutes and has been doing it from the start even when they were struggling. Now they are ready for a run in the ACC behind NC and Duke. Maybe if JL would have played our bigs earlier and often we would have an assemblance of an inside game.
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                    • #40
                      We need a center that is capable of rebounding, scoring and defending ; plenty of mid-majors have good centers and I think we need to make recruiting one a major point of emphasis, Merfeld was able to get Strickland to go to Evansville and he turned out to be a pretty good player; I just think we are spending most of our time looking at guards and in order for us to be a much better team we need a good center .

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