Good teams Don't lose to Play-In teams in Feb

[chitown fanatic]

We're not a good team.....it's amazing to see how far we've regressed in just two games. We are much closer to being one of the play-ins than we are tourney champs

[bigdaddystuck]

I agree, good teams dont lose to play ingame teams. Knew this would be a difficult task, but we looked bad tonight. I cant think of one good thing about this game, but that it is over!

[BuBraves55]

i find it odd that even though our 7 man rotation couldn't hit water if it fell out of a boat, cole-scott or someone couldnt come on out and try to spark us. probably tired too towards the end

[BradleyBrave]

Well, not much to add other than this was arguably the worst all-around effort of the year. I hope we can put to bed the "If Dan Ruffin was healthy" excuse. Yeah, it would have maybe made a difference in a couple of games. But he's been bad the last 2 games, and hasn't been able to prevent teams from scoring 40+ points in the 2nd half the last 3 games. Despite being one of the most talented teams in the league IMO, we're underachieving yet again. As Chitown and others put, you don't lose to play-in teams in February. We've now lost to 3 of the 4 projected play-in teams. If we're not careful, we could be taking Indiana St's spot on Thursday.

[MacabreMob]

2007
Play-in Teams: Drake, ISU, E'Ville and In St
Creighton 13-5 2nd place
Creighton lost at ISU 55-65 2/20

2006
Play-in Teams: Drake, E'Ville, In St, ISU
SIU 12-6 Tied for 2nd
SIU lost (at home) vs In St 54-63 2/1
SIU lost @ E'Ville 59-64 on 2/21

2005
Play-in Teams: Drake, BU, E'Ville and In St
Wich St 12-6 2nd place
Wich St lost @ Bradley 68-74

[Lakeview Brave]

Are we really that talented?

[BradleyBrave]

Are we really that talented?

I think so. I think Ruffin is one of the better point guards in the league. I think JC is one of the better shooting guard/small forwards in the league. I think Andrew Warren is one of the better shooting guard/small forwards in the league. I think Theron Wilson is one of the better small forwards in the league. I think Sammy Maniscalco is one of the better freshmen in the league. Notice a theme here? We're all perimeter. That part of the game I think we have down. The numbers support that. However, our inside game is so dreadful that it more than offsets any advantage we have in the backcourt.

Zach Andrews is so much better than any post player on this team it's sickening. Even a guy as limited offensively as Zach would make this team exponentially better. Unfortunately he's gone, as are our chances for a top 4 finish. Anthony Thompson had better be the 2nd coming of POB if we're going to think about contending for a conference title anytime in the near future. I think we've got a good foundation, but it takes a complete TEAM to contend in this league. I feel like we're half a team.

[MacabreMob]

2007
Play-in Teams: Drake, ISU, E'Ville and In St
Creighton 13-5 2nd place
Creighton lost at ISU 55-65 2/20

2006
Play-in Teams: Drake, E'Ville, In St, ISU
SIU 12-6 Tied for 2nd
SIU lost (at home) vs In St 54-63 2/1
SIU lost @ E'Ville 59-64 on 2/21

2005
Play-in Teams: Drake, BU, E'Ville and In St
Wich St 12-6 2nd place
Wich St lost @ Bradley 68-74

2004
Play-in Teams: BU, In St, Eville, ISU
UNI 12-6 Tied for 2nd
UNI lost @ Bradley 64-72

2003
Play-in Teams: UNI, Drake, ISU, In St
Wich St 12-6 Tied for 3rd
Wich St lost @ UNI 72-80

2002
-none-

Conference RPI Overall Rank:
2007 - 6th
2006 - 6th
2005 - 8th
2004 - 11th
2003 - 12th
2002 - 14th


anymore "drive-by media" type comments

[BradleyBrave]

2007
Play-in Teams: Drake, ISU, E'Ville and In St
Creighton 13-5 2nd place
Creighton lost at ISU 55-65 2/20

2006
Play-in Teams: Drake, E'Ville, In St, ISU
SIU 12-6 Tied for 2nd
SIU lost (at home) vs In St 54-63 2/1
SIU lost @ E'Ville 59-64 on 2/21

2005
Play-in Teams: Drake, BU, E'Ville and In St
Wich St 12-6 2nd place
Wich St lost @ Bradley 68-74

I would argue that those teams that lost didn't 'need' the win like we did. Clearly, their overall conference records indicate that they had more games to spare than the Braves.

[Murph]

I think there is a lot of talent on this team, the coach needs to get it done and fix the problem.....

[Lakeview Brave]

2004
Play-in Teams: BU, In St, Eville, ISU
UNI 12-6 Tied for 2nd
UNI lost @ Bradley 64-72

2003
Play-in Teams: UNI, Drake, ISU, In St
Wich St 12-6 Tied for 3rd
Wich St lost @ UNI 72-80

2002
-none-

Conference RPI Overall Rank:
2007 - 6th
2006 - 6th
2005 - 8th
2004 - 11th
2003 - 12th
2002 - 14th


anymore "drive-by media" type comments

That would all look nice if we were going to finish in the top 3.

[Scouter]

That would all look nice if we were going to finish in the top 3.

I guess that means we're not a "good" team. This team has shown flashes of being good (Mich. St., second half vs. Vandy, home against ISU), but consistency makes a talented team a good team.

[MacabreMob]

I would argue that those teams that lost didn't 'need' the win like we did. Clearly, their overall conference records indicate that they had more games to spare than the Braves.

Right as you may be.... but the title of this thread and comments therafter don't convey that... damage done. Whether intended or not is another thing. But another typical move in today's society/news is to make a "drive-by statement" and then back away as if that's not what they meant. But damage is done. No striking it from the record.

But didn't Squrrel even say in a thread about seeds with more success... 10-13's do better over 8/9's... so 8/9's are more safely in than 10-13's.... is there suggestion of sabotage to lose a game that might get a more "winnable" seed? I thought teams/coaches try to win as many games as possible. Especially in the MVC, there aren't games to "give away" - nothing to spare.

Anyway - I only display FACTS disputing the statement made by this thread.

That's all.

[MacabreMob]

That would all look nice if we were going to finish in the top 3.

You made the statement.

So I assumed we made it saying we were a good team. Therefore a top 3 team.

You wanna say 4-6 seeds don't lose in February to Play-in teams... then that is different.

[Lakeview Brave]

Right as you may be.... but the title of this thread and comments therafter don't convey that... damage done. Whether intended or not is another thing. But another typical move in today's society/news is to make a "drive-by statement" and then back away as if that's not what they meant. But damage is done. No striking it from the record.

But didn't Squrrel even say in a thread about seeds with more success... 10-13's do better over 8/9's... so 8/9's are more safely in than 10-13's.... is there suggestion of sabotage to lose a game that might get a more "winnable" seed? I thought teams/coaches try to win as many games as possible. Especially in the MVC, there aren't games to "give away" - nothing to spare.

Anyway - I only display FACTS disputing the statement made by this thread.

That's all.

You are watching to much fox news. The fact is we are not a consitantly good team with or without Ruff and losing to a play in team only demonstrates that further.