Post game thread - BU 68 isu 72

[LG281]

Sorry to be weighing in so late on the whole classy vs. unclassy them vs. us thing.

While I wasn't at the game and can only go by whats been accounted here and by my friends who were in attendance...I can say that Bradley fans can be just as vulgar sometimes and that it only takes a few bad apples to make the whole lot seem bad.

First hand example: BU Soccer games. Bradley has kicked the ball out of the opposing teams end zone (don't know the technical term for it) resulting in a goal kick.

Each time the other team's goalie takes that kick the cheerleaders and most of the crowd yell "Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww GO BRAVES" but there are a few "bad apples" that feel the need to yell "Awwwwwwwwwwwwwww YOU SUCK" and even a few more that like to add an "@$$hole" on the end of that.

Just thought I'd mention it for those of us who think Bradley fans can't be just as bad.

[AE Braves Fan]

Each time the other team's goalie takes that kick the cheerleaders and most of the crowd yell "Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww GO BRAVES" but there are a few "bad apples" that feel the need to yell "Awwwwwwwwwwwwwww YOU SUCK" and even a few more that like to add an "@$$hole" on the end of that.

Just thought I'd mention it for those of us who think Bradley fans can't be just as bad.

At ISU is was the ENTIRE student section and probably 1/4 of the remaining crowd. Not just a few bad apples. I'd say there were "a few good apples" who were respectful and polite.

[TNel]

Inside

Say what you will about who starts, who doesn't, who gets the minutes, who doesn't, three point records, hostile crowds, vulgar cheers, bitter rivalries, game strategy ... this, and future, BU teams will never get to the next level (NCAA, forget the NIT) until we have some semblance of an inside game. Someone(s) who can FINISH on one end and DEFEND and REBOUND on the other. With the talent we currently have (and will have in the coming years), it doesn't have to be another Patrick O'Bryant. Imagine the year we could be having right now if we only had another Zach Andrews. We control the boards, we win. We don't, we lose. I think the stats bear that out. I don't know whether it's the recruitment or the development process that's failed us this year. But, it's as obvious as the L in the W-L column.

[TNel]

Point

For those of you worrying about next year and the transition from Ruffin to Maniscalco, I have two words of comfort: Les - Manuel. Both great, but different, point guards.

[amckillip]

Just wondering to this point in the season.... what has been the largest and most intimidating crowd for SM? Was @ Butler worse for a Frosh? Was @ SIU bigger and worse?

I was at the Butler game, and it was no where near as intense as the ISU games. There student section was actually terribly small, even for break. But at least there school gave them the student section (but thats an entirely different thread). Anyway, I doubt Sam will face such an intense crowd many more times in his career.

Off-point, if your Moser how mad are you now?

[Scouter]

Off-point, if your Coach MO how mad are you now?

Why?

[BradleyBrave]

Off-point, if your Coach MO how mad are you now?

Yes, please elaborate. Not sure what you mean by this.

[TNel]

Good to see "Phantom's" perspective on Redbirdfan.com

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"BU fans are absolutely pissing & moaning to the Nth degree in their postgame thread about our fans, specifically our students. Despite my best efforts over there to explain certain things, they are in full on gripe mode. Good to know Red Alert is really having an effect "


I guess we see a different side to Phantom on our board.

Believe me, I've had decades of experience with ISU fans, who are probably (kindly put) the least knowledgable of basketball fans: the best way to silence them is to ask what ISU has EVER achieved on the national scene in Div. 1 basketball. They will quickly respond: "Doug Collins." Period. Paragraph. End of story.

[amckillip]

Why?

Yes, please elaborate. Not sure what you mean by this.

Honestly, Watching a few of their games, I don't feel like ISU is well coached, and that it's really just the development of the players there that they are so improved. I also think its the fact that they have played a fairly easy schedule and that some normally good teams are not as good this year. Honestly I feel like Jankovich just fell into the right place at the right time, when his success is much more due to coach Mo than to himself.

EDIT: On my previous post I said coach MO I meant Moser. Very bad mistake, my fault.

[BradleyBrave]

Honestly, Watching a few of their games, I don't feel like ISU is well coached, and that it's really just the development of the players there that they are so improved. I also think its the fact that they have played a fairly easy schedule and that some normally good teams are not as good this year. Honestly I feel like Jankovich just fell into the right place at the right time, when his success is much more due to coach Mo than to himself.

Do you mean Porter Moser? I never heard of him referred to as 'Coach Mo'. The only Coach Mo on this board is the one that coached Bradley for 11 seasons.

[amckillip]

Do you mean Porter Moser? I never heard of him referred to as 'Coach Mo'. The only Coach Mo on this board is the one that coached Bradley for 11 seasons.

Haha, read above, I caught that when I went to reply.

[BradleyBrave]

Haha, read above, I caught that when I went to reply.

No problem. Makes sense now!

[bubraves07]

just got back....


the ISU students had some really classless chants. Every time a BU player was called for a foul, the entire student section (and cheerleaders?) yelled YOU - SU<K - D*CK

Also multiple chants of "F - U - B - U"

I guess I shouldn't really have expected class, though. I have never and can't imagine ever hearing chants like that in Peoria.

The ISU fans in front of me didn't know the names of their players.

The ball bounced their way tonight. A loose ball here, an in and out shot there and Bradley wins. We are the better team.

You are right on with these comments. I lost count of the number of times i was flipped off by their student section as well as challenged to a fight outside for doing clean bradley cheers. I love how they have to resort to dirty chears to get louder than a couple hundred bradley fans in the upper deck, like its our fault that without the bradley fans they cant sell out redbird arena.

I hope we get to meet them again in the tourney, they wont get so many favorable calls on a neutral floor.

There was also a student who continued the use of classless chants in his espn conversation http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/conver...meId=280402287

Feel free to post comments there too.

[Phantom]

Good to see "Phantom's" perspective on Redbirdfan.com

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"BU fans are absolutely pissing & moaning to the Nth degree in their postgame thread about our fans, specifically our students. Despite my best efforts over there to explain certain things, they are in full on gripe mode. Good to know Red Alert is really having an effect "


I guess we see a different side to Phantom on our board.

I dont blame you for thinking that...I understand how it looked, but believe me that's not my intent. I meant what I said in my first post here as well as on our board. I was just trying to explain some of the stuff that was chanted/cheered, etc. but then the bashing of our fans continued nonetheless. I didnt mean to come off as two-faced but I can understand how it might appear that I did. I just find it interesting how much of this thread has turned into how awful our fans are, rather than talking about the game itself. Students are supposed to be rowdy, and it gets intensified in a rivalry game. There are many worse things that other schools' students do at games. I certainly wont say we are angels though either, but at the sake of sounding selfish or vain, I am glad that we are making an impact. Just a couple years ago our students were barely noticeable. (Neither was our team.) We're just trying to make Redbird Arena a fun, hostile place like it used to be. Just my 2 cents.

[RedSeaRamblin07]

A couple quotes from the espn page

bubraves07
Both of these teams are pretty evenly matched and i wouldnt be suprised if they meet in the valley tourney in march.
For the comment by uofcberkley, what a joke. You couldnt sell out a 9000 seat arena without all the bradley fans making the trip to normal. I was at both games this year and i can honestly say i didnt hear many isu fans at carver arena (which by the way holds 11500 and was sold out). Another thing, why do you even have your 5 member pep band if all they do is eat pizza and listen to the music being played over the speakers.
This is isu's first win against bradley since feb 2005, ENOUGH SAID.
ONCE A BRAVE, ALWAYS A BRAVE!!

to which Don_Myth responded:

Don_Myth
bubraves07, Id be careful talking about selling out an arena, because I'm fairly sure you guys would have a hard time getting people in the stands if you weren't aloud to sell beer.

Although I am 100% sure that Carver would still be pretty much sold out every year for the ISU game even if we didn't sell beer, I can't help but wonder if this really does have even the smallest effect on our attendance. Obviously anyone who cares enough to be on this board wouldn't be swayed by the presence or lack of alcohol, but there have been multiple occasions where I've heard visiting fans very surprised and pleased that we have beer at Carver. I've been so used to it that it's never seemed out of the norm to me but maybe this really does get some people out to the games?