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  • #76
    i sure hope jl can get a difference maker for next year because i dont see maniscalco doing well against these guys in the near future.
    WE WANT HEEMSKERK!

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    • #77
      Originally posted by BuBraves55 View Post
      i sure hope jl can get a difference maker for next year because i dont see maniscalco doing well against these guys in the near future.
      Couldnt disagree more.. SamM may have been timid for a couple of games, but his near term and long term prospects should not be a concern.
      Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

      ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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      • #78
        Originally posted by BuBraves55 View Post
        i sure hope jl can get a difference maker for next year because i dont see maniscalco doing well against these guys in the near future.
        What games have you been watching. He is having an amazing freshman campaign. By all rights he should be MVC NOY. He's a freshman and your judging him on one of the most intense games you can play in. He'll be fine, Maniscalco has the intangibles we haven't seen on the hilltop for awhile. He's has been a huge part of our recent run, what more would you want out of a freshman?

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        • #79
          Originally posted by amckillip View Post
          What games have you been watching. He is having an amazing freshman campaign. By all rights he should be MVC NOY. He's a freshman and your judging him on one of the most intense games you can play in. He'll be fine, Maniscalco has the intangibles we haven't seen on the hilltop for awhile. He's has been a huge part of our recent run, what more would you want out of a freshman?
          Well said amckillip. I couldnt agree more. I'll say it again, Sam Maniscalco reminds me very much of a young Jim Les. We need more players with Sam's basketball IQ.
          Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

          ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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          • #80
            I don't claim to see alot of BU ball but watching SM last night, he displayed a tough, bull-dog like energy that will serve him well on defense and being a play maker. I wonder about his development as a future scorer. I don't ever see him being a Ruffin type player.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by bert notorius View Post
              I don't claim to see alot of BU ball but watching SM last night, he displayed a tough, bull-dog like energy that will serve him well on defense and being a play maker. I wonder about his development as a future scorer. I don't ever see him being a Ruffin type player.
              I don't think SamMan will be the highlight reel playmaker Ruffin is, but then again, that's a pretty tough bar to reach.

              I'm not worried about Sam at all. He's shown me enough this year that he's more than capable of taking the reigns from Ruff next season. I was very impressed with how he handled the team in DR's absence.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by bert notorius View Post
                I don't claim to see alot of BU ball but watching SM last night, he displayed a tough, bull-dog like energy that will serve him well on defense and being a play maker. I wonder about his development as a future scorer. I don't ever see him being a Ruffin type player.
                FYI hes averaging more ppg his true Freshman year than DRuff did his Redshirt Freshman year and is getting about 7 minutes less per game, and is looked at as about the 4th or 5th option, Druff was 2nd or 3rd.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by bert notorius View Post
                  I don't claim to see alot of BU ball but watching SM last night, he displayed a tough, bull-dog like energy that will serve him well on defense and being a play maker. I wonder about his development as a future scorer. I don't ever see him being a Ruffin type player.
                  Bert, I dont see Sam as being a Ruffin type of player either. Sam and Ruff are different types of players and both are effective in their own ways.
                  Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

                  ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Scouter View Post
                    I'm not worried about Sam at all. He's shown me enough this year that he's more than capable of taking the reigns from Ruff next season. I was very impressed with how he handled the team in DR's absence.
                    This also allows us to develop Eddren Mccain next year into what could be a nice 1-2 punch for the future.
                    Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

                    ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by BraveE View Post
                      Alot of whining on here about a foul call here or there. There was a lot of missed calls on both ends. In the first half we benifited a lot from no over the back calls on offensive rebounds. Also a lot of moving screens. This isn't the reason we lost the game.
                      I don't see the "whining" you are referring to. Please point to where Bradley fans have whined about calls.

                      Maybe you are confusing it with the Redbird board, where entire threads are dedicated to whining about officiating--

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
                        I don't see the "whining" you are referring to. Please point to where Bradley fans have whined about calls.

                        Maybe you are confusing it with the Redbird board, where entire threads are dedicated to whining about officiating--
                        http://www.redbirdfan.com/msgforum/v...php?f=2&t=8766


                        I have to agree..the game was called OK from what I saw. The ONLY call that sticks out was Slack jumping on RA's back to block Ruffins shot. I wouldn't have even minded the no call had they not then called RA for pushing him off him. Like you said....haven't heard any BU fans complaining about the refs at all.

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                        • #87
                          The way I see it, refs are refs, they are going to call the game how they want to and either way, somebody is going to be upset. Does it make it difficult when it seems like the calls aren't going our way, sure it does. But do we get the calls in other games, absolutely.

                          In regards to SM, being a Freshman playing it this atmosphere, that is a lot of pressure. He can take that pressure, as he has already proven by picking up the team when Ruffin went down. Yes he looked timid last night, but he is a Freshman, when we play ISU next year, I expect that he will play so much better than he did this year against them. Everyone has off nights, unfortunately he has had them when we played ISU.

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                          • #88
                            Just wondering to this point in the season.... what has been the largest and most intimidating crowd for SM? Was @ Butler worse for a Frosh? Was @ SIU bigger and worse?

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by dogsrus View Post
                              I have to agree..the game was called OK from what I saw. The ONLY call that sticks out was Slack jumping on RA's back to block Ruffins shot. I wouldn't have even minded the no call had they not then called RA for pushing him off him. Like you said....haven't heard any BU fans complaining about the refs at all.
                              I actually didn't have a problem with the Slack play (which happened against TW, I believe). I didn't think him ending up on TW's back created an advantage for Slack. TW was basically there as a screener, and, if anything, it actually gave Ruffin more of a lane along the baseline.

                              And the subsequent foul by Wilson was more than just a "push off" IMO.

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                              • #90
                                There is a huge difference between those games and rivalry games. Yes SIU is a rival, but can you honestly say that they are a bigger rival than ISU? Your nerves will get to you a little more in those games and now that he has experienced them here and there, he will play so much better. I'm not trying to make excuses for him, but a couple of bad games against ISU, and as you pointed out @SIU and @Butler, are no reason to get upset. He is a freshman and he is experiencing all of this for the first time and he has performed beyond most people's expectations.

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