Patrick O'Bryant Declares for NBA Draft

[georgethedog]

POB going #10 to Seattle http://www.nbadraft.net/
- I don't see Seattle taking him. They seem to draft poorly. I would bet that they would trade the pick.

POB going #16 to Chicago http://www.hoopshype.com/draft.htm
-makes sense, some talk of the Bulls liking him a lot. Not a great fit for him or the Bulls this year because they need someone that can play right away

NOT in the top 10 on ESPN.com

#9 to Minn http://probasketball.about.com/od/nb...ckdraft061.htm
-possible as they dont NEED a center right now.




I think that POB will fall fast once he gets individual workouts. There are a lot of tallented players coming out, and I just don't see him as a top 10 pick right now. I think he's going to need 2 more years to become a top 10 pick as next years draft should be much stronger (Noah and Oden at the top). I just hope if he ends up going that he gets on a team where he can develop and play at some point. It makes me sick when teams draft players and don't even give them a chance, and they end up in the NBDL or Europe.

Yes. I think the more camps he visits and the more workouts he gets the lower his stock will go. We have all seen his weaknesses. How many rebounds does he get flat footed because he is taller than everyone in the Valley? Will he be able to do the things he does against a higher level of athlete? He did very little against Memphis and that kind of showing could happen at these camps. Sure, he is special (no doubt) but he is surely not as good as the hype at this point in his career. He had an awesome game against a slow 7 footer when they played Pitt, by the faster guys ate him up (Memphis) and for some reason that did not hurt his draft stock? HOWEVER, THE NBA HAS A HISTORY OF TAKING 7 FOOTERS WHEN THEY ARE NOT READY... THE LIST IS LONG... EDDIE CURRY, TYSON CHANDLER, ETC. SO, I STILL THINK HE WILL GO IN THE TOP 10 BECAUSE HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF QUITE OFTEN. By the way, I am new here (I have been reading since Feb. but just started posting) so I want to thank everyone for this forum.

[dogsrus]

POB going #10 to Seattle http://www.nbadraft.net/
- I don't see Seattle taking him. They seem to draft poorly. I would bet that they would trade the pick.

POB going #16 to Chicago http://www.hoopshype.com/draft.htm
-makes sense, some talk of the Bulls liking him a lot. Not a great fit for him or the Bulls this year because they need someone that can play right away

NOT in the top 10 on ESPN.com

#9 to Minn http://probasketball.about.com/od/nb...ckdraft061.htm
-possible as they dont NEED a center right now.




I think that POB will fall fast once he gets individual workouts. There are a lot of tallented players coming out, and I just don't see him as a top 10 pick right now. I think he's going to need 2 more years to become a top 10 pick as next years draft should be much stronger (Noah and Oden at the top). I just hope if he ends up going that he gets on a team where he can develop and play at some point. It makes me sick when teams draft players and don't even give them a chance, and they end up in the NBDL or Europe.

Yes. I think the more camps he visits and the more workouts he gets the lower his stock will go. We have all seen his weaknesses. How many rebounds does he get flat footed because he is taller than everyone in the Valley? Will he be able to do the things he does against a higher level of athlete? He did very little against Memphis and that kind of showing could happen at these camps. Sure, he is special (no doubt) but he is surely not as good as the hype at this point in his career. He had an awesome game against a slow 7 footer when they played Pitt, by the faster guys ate him up (Memphis) and for some reason that did not hurt his draft stock? HOWEVER, THE NBA HAS A HISTORY OF TAKING 7 FOOTERS WHEN THEY ARE NOT READY... THE LIST IS LONG... EDDIE CURRY, TYSON CHANDLER, ETC. SO, I STILL THINK HE WILL GO IN THE TOP 10 BECAUSE HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF QUITE OFTEN. By the way, I am new here (I have been reading since Feb. but just started posting) so I want to thank everyone for this forum.

Welcome George.......the only thing I would argue is the statement about the hype. I don't think POB has ben hyped beyond what most recognize him as. A good 7 footer with potential.

Most everyone realizes he is not NBA ready in terms of immediate playing time.

GM's just don't want to miss out 2-3 years down the road when/if he blossoms.

The game against Memphis did not hurt him because he has been watched for quite some time. GM's/scouts allready know what they have in POB.....heck he had worse games against some Valley teams.

[Da Coach]

POB going #10 to Seattle http://www.nbadraft.net/
- I don't see Seattle taking him. They seem to draft poorly. I would bet that they would trade the pick.

POB going #16 to Chicago http://www.hoopshype.com/draft.htm
-makes sense, some talk of the Bulls liking him a lot. Not a great fit for him or the Bulls this year because they need someone that can play right away

NOT in the top 10 on ESPN.com

#9 to Minn http://probasketball.about.com/od/nb...ckdraft061.htm
-possible as they dont NEED a center right now.

I think that POB will fall fast once he gets individual workouts. There are a lot of tallented players coming out, and I just don't see him as a top 10 pick right now. I think he's going to need 2 more years to become a top 10 pick as next years draft should be much stronger (Noah and Oden at the top). I just hope if he ends up going that he gets on a team where he can develop and play at some point. It makes me sick when teams draft players and don't even give them a chance, and they end up in the NBDL or Europe.

Houston, at #9, is very interested in POB. I think they are one team that will have him come for an interview and workout.

And the history of agile big men like POB is that they tend to stay high or even rise as draft day nears. Unless his workouts expose some major weakness he has, and I don't know what that would be. The NBA teams love the classic back-to-the-basket type post men like POB. There are very few skilled big men who possess the post moves POB already has.

[Da Coach]

An article in the Minneapolis paper--

http://www.startribune.com/511/story/387506.html

[IlliBraves]

You can't help but feel a little disappointment about this. P'OB's absence leaves a big hole in our line up, and we already lost some key guys. It's going to be hard to rebuild without him. To be honest, I feel a little betrayed. I thought Patrick wanted to come back for more.

[georgethedog]

This quote goes in the "gimme a break" category

An article in the Minneapolis paper--

http://www.startribune.com/511/story/387506.html

Thanks for posting the article. It is nice to read articles from outside the area. Just for laughs here is a quote from the Star Tribune article:

"The one comment he made to me is, he wants to be a lottery pick," Kim Gadison said. "It really has nothing to do with the money, but Patrick knows those teams are committed to the players they draft."

Nothing to do with the money? Who is she trying to fool? I respect the fact that he is going and I wish him the best (I would do the same thing) but don't ever tell me it has nothing to do with the money! Does anyone listen to the "Score" 670 radio out of Chicago? They have a bit on a show on Thursday afternoons called "who ya crappin?" where people call in with such quotes to expose BS. This would be one of the best quotes in a long time for that show! So I ask... Kim Gadison, "who ya crappin "

[TRIMAN]

POB going #10 to Seattle http://www.nbadraft.net/
- I don't see Seattle taking him. They seem to draft poorly. I would bet that they would trade the pick.

POB going #16 to Chicago http://www.hoopshype.com/draft.htm
-makes sense, some talk of the Bulls liking him a lot. Not a great fit for him or the Bulls this year because they need someone that can play right away

NOT in the top 10 on ESPN.com

#9 to Minn http://probasketball.about.com/od/nb...ckdraft061.htm
-possible as they dont NEED a center right now.

I think that POB will fall fast once he gets individual workouts. There are a lot of tallented players coming out, and I just don't see him as a top 10 pick right now. I think he's going to need 2 more years to become a top 10 pick as next years draft should be much stronger (Noah and Oden at the top). I just hope if he ends up going that he gets on a team where he can develop and play at some point. It makes me sick when teams draft players and don't even give them a chance, and they end up in the NBDL or Europe.

Houston, at #9, is very interested in POB. I think they are one team that will have him come for an interview and workout.

And the history of agile big men like POB is that they tend to stay high or even rise as draft day nears. Unless his workouts expose some major weakness he has, and I don't know what that would be. The NBA teams love the classic back-to-the-basket type post men like POB. There are very few skilled big men who possess the post moves POB already has.

Houston is a pretty good fit for him, he would do well at the PF position. He just wouldn't ever get the ball or win a round in the playoffs with T-Mac. I think he could do well on the 76ers too (although someone else wrote a whole lot about how that's a bad fit).

It's very true that teams are bad about drafting potential in big men-Chandler and Curry like you said, but also Brown, Miles, and many, many others. HOWEVER-those were all HS players. There haven't been a lot of high pick busts out of college, at least not as many.

A whole lot seems to change between the period where agents recruit players and tell them how great they are to when players actually work out for teams. Remember how much D. Wade went up? Deng went way down. Livingston went up and Igoudala dropped like a rock. I think it's way to early to say that he's a lock, top 10 pick, but he certainly could be one when it's all said and done. I'm sure he's been told "no way X team passes on you-if you are available, they will draft you." Ask Arenas how that works. He was told that he wouldn't fall past #20 (where a team didn't think he would be available) and he fell to the 2nd round. The draft is so much BS, I feel bad for the players that have to put up with it.

-also many draft boards do not have Noah in right now, which could still change over the next week.

[Fastbreak]

Shannon Brown and PJ Tucker announced this morning they will join the list of collegians entering the draft.
If enough enter have have great workouts in front of the NBAers, then it could affect POB's standing.

[BradleyBrave]

Shannon Brown and PJ Tucker announced this morning they will join the list of collegians entering the draft.
If enough enter have have great workouts in front of the NBAers, then it could affect POB's standing.

If Joakim Noah would quit partying and declare for the draft, that might affect POB's status as well.

[Fetz86]

yeah if Noah gets in the draft than people cant claim Pat is the best center/big man prospect in the draft and hopefully he drops enough to come back.

Please understand I wish him nothing but the best, i'm just selfish.

[BUBravesMan]

Monday night about quarter to 9, there are two articles about POB on the front page of ESPN's Men's College Basketball Front Page:
MBB homepage: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/index
???ぎ?? Texas' Tucker to enter NBA draft | Ford analysis
???ぎ?? SMU hires Doherty with return to NCAAs in mind
???ぎ?? Michigan State's Brown to enter draft without agent
???ぎ?? GW's Pinnock, Elliott to enter draft without agents
???ぎ?? Bradley's O'Bryant to enter draft, without agent
???ぎ?? Former AD Lane settles lawsuit with St. Bonaventure
???ぎ?? Bradley C O'Bryant declares for draft | Ford
???ぎ?? NCAA cites Kansas for 'lack of institutional control'
???ぎ?? Daily Word: Why the NC State search is dragging

First link: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2...ory?id=2420355
Second link: http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2...ory?id=2418964

Odd how they would have two different stories on the same subject linked twice.

[AV23]

I think Les did the right thing, and I think POB would do well to listen to him. If he's in the top 10, he really has almost no optino but to go to the NBA. If he's below the top 10, then I think he really would be served getting up into the top 10 after his Junior year. We'll just have to wait and see.

At the end of the day, either way it's good for Bradley. The more guys we can get playing in the NBA, the more guys will want to come to Bradley.

So your saying you agree with Les if POB is not in the top 10 he needs to return to BU. Sorry I don't agree if POB is pick anywhere from 10-20 that is great and he doesn't need to return to BU. The list of centers that could enter the NBA draft next year could push POB out of the top 15 so he needs to go now.

[thefish7]

I think Les did the right thing, and I think POB would do well to listen to him. If he's in the top 10, he really has almost no optino but to go to the NBA. If he's below the top 10, then I think he really would be served getting up into the top 10 after his Junior year. We'll just have to wait and see.

At the end of the day, either way it's good for Bradley. The more guys we can get playing in the NBA, the more guys will want to come to Bradley.

So your saying you agree with Les if POB is not in the top 10 he needs to return to BU. Sorry I don't agree if POB is pick anywhere from 10-20 that is great and he doesn't need to return to BU. The list of centers that could enter the NBA draft next year could push POB out of the top 15 so he needs to go now.

10-16 I could agree with you, because of guaranteed years and money. Anything outside the lottery and he runs the risk of never playing for the team that drafted him and out of the NBA.

[brainiac]

No sooner does POB declare for the draft, then the latest mock draft projection drops him significantly.
He was at #10 in the 2006 nbadraft.net mock draft for the past several weeks, but he has now dropped to #15.
All the other Mock Draft sites have him from #9-15 but haven't been updated as recently.

[AV23]

I think Les did the right thing, and I think POB would do well to listen to him. If he's in the top 10, he really has almost no optino but to go to the NBA. If he's below the top 10, then I think he really would be served getting up into the top 10 after his Junior year. We'll just have to wait and see.

At the end of the day, either way it's good for Bradley. The more guys we can get playing in the NBA, the more guys will want to come to Bradley.

So your saying you agree with Les if POB is not in the top 10 he needs to return to BU. Sorry I don't agree if POB is pick anywhere from 10-20 that is great and he doesn't need to return to BU. The list of centers that could enter the NBA draft next year could push POB out of the top 15 so he needs to go now.

10-16 I could agree with you, because of guaranteed years and money. Anything outside the lottery and he runs the risk of never playing for the team that drafted him and out of the NBA.

The top 30 picks in the draft is guaranteed money.