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Good read. Thanks sanfran.
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advice from jay williams who has shown sound judgement during his career both as a duke blue devil and a chicago bull.Comment
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With the exception of riding that motorcycle.Originally posted by flipper
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Chicago Tribune reports Bulls are looking at Patrick O'Bryant
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These guys have O'Bryant going #12
but then, they say he is a "legit 7'2""
so I guess it all proves they don't really know squat.
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We all know POB is not 7'2 but he can go as high as #12 in the draft. Like I said before it all depends on how his does in the workouts. Who knows POB may be able to go in the top 8.Originally posted by BU1999Comment
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I can't see the Bulls drafting POB (they would only take him with the 16 anyway). Pax has ONLY drafted players that are ready to go right away (Kirk, Duhon, Gordon, and Deng plus the Andres Noc. signing), and POB would be a project. The Bulls need a big man right now. I suppose they could draft him and try to develop him, but their big man development hasn't been great.Originally posted by user1Comment
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Another NBA mock draft from MSNBC. This one has Patrick O'Bryant going at #10--
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Chit!
I have so many mixed emotions over OB - and for OB. I can't imagine how he is feeling or what he is thinking.
Good Luck OB no matter what!!!Comment
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May I ask what are some of your mixed emotions about POBOriginally posted by MacabreMob
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STAY!Originally posted by AV23May I ask what are some of your mixed emotions about POBOriginally posted by MacabreMob
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I seeOriginally posted by MacabreMobSTAY!Originally posted by AV23May I ask what are some of your mixed emotions about POBOriginally posted by MacabreMob
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I can share some of my mixed emotions???‚¬?¦
1 ???‚¬??? Patrick is young. He is a great guy and a wonderful young man???‚¬?¦but he IS a young man that is still very much maturing both physically and emotionally. His growth the past two years in both areas has been amazing. I am not quite saying he is being ???‚¬?“thrown to the wolves,???‚¬?? but he will certainly not be nurtured in the NBA like he has been at Bradley.
2 ???‚¬??? He has a dominant figure in his life that is clearly forcing this issue. One who has done most of his research on the internet and from information gathered through agents. Advice from a coach who is knowledgeable and really went to bat for Patrick ???‚¬???at his one personal risk ???‚¬??? is largely ignored. Taking advice from agent(s) who very clearly are only concerned about money seems to be a very large mistake to me.
3 ???‚¬??? He is passing up a year in his life as a college student that he can never get back. Why do this?
4 - I firmly believe Patrick is on the rise and is NOT going to be viewed less favorably in the future. I wrote earlier that if someone thinks Patrick has plateaued and will not continue to improve, then this is the time to go. I wonder what evidence they have to make that judgment, however. Does anyone really think the NBA is not going to be interested in Patrick next year? Everyone agrees Patrick needs to develop strength, stamina, and general playing skills. He also needs to continue to build his confidence. It will be hard to do any of those next year in the NBA.
5 ???‚¬??? The only real reason to leave is for money. From a purely financial perspective, I honestly believe Patrick can be drafted five places highest next year than this year, which would make leaving this year a poor financial decision.
Now, for the "mixed" part...
1 ???‚¬??? He will be a wealthy young man. If he and his family can???‚¬?„?t wait a year for this, then he should go now.Comment
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Can you please explain yourself more on these twoOriginally posted by GoBraves
2 ???‚¬??? He has a dominant figure in his life that is clearly forcing this issue. One who has done most of his research on the internet and from information gathered through agents. Advice from a coach who is knowledgeable and really went to bat for Patrick ???‚¬???at his one personal risk ???‚¬??? is largely ignored. Taking advice from agent(s) who very clearly are only concerned about money seems to be a very large mistake to me.
Now, for the "mixed" part...
1 ???‚¬??? He will be a wealthy young man. If he and his family can???‚¬?„?t wait a year for this, then he should go now.Comment
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I think they are clear, but here you go???‚¬?¦
2 - Coach Les has a wealth of personal experience and contacts in the NBA that can and have provided guidance to Patrick. This advice seems to be very sound and absolutely in Patrick???‚¬?„?s best interest. This advice seems to be discounted in favor of undescribed ???‚¬?“research???‚¬?? or agents, who certainly have THEIR best interest in mind and stand to profit from Patrick.
1 - I can understand situations where a family is clearly in financial need. If that is the case, then it might be worth giving up a year your youth to alleviate the financial burden. I don???‚¬?„?t think anyone is debating if Patrick is going to make millions of dollars playing basketball. The question is simply is that money coming in 2 months or 14 months. If his family needs the money now, then I think he should go. If not, then I think it is in his short-run and long-run best interest to stay.
I simply can not imagine twenty years from now that anyone would regret another year in college!Comment
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