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  • #91
    I agree. You can't judge a player's contribution based on 2 minutes a game. The coaches have decided to minimize DC's time for reasons they obviously see fit. But, in defense of DC, you can't get an accurate take on player given the number of minutes he is curretly logging in the games. The only way to fairly assess him at this point would be to attend a couple of practices.

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    • #92
      He did though make a nice pass off the high post to the corner to JC for an open 3. Seems his confidence is zero and without any confidence he will never succeed at this level.

      The whole Salley getting Tech's is to me very simple, Salley seems to have a chip on his shoulder when it comes to anyone who is physical with him, essentially disrespecting him. He takes it very personal and he feels the best way to retaliate is to retaliate in a physical way. To show how he is not going to let anyone disrespect him. He is a tough guy who can not keep his emotions in check. He is easily frustrated and it doesnt take much to distract him.

      Everytime he gets a techincal it is simply a turnover and if the other team makes the free throws 2 free points. You can not give away possession or points in College basketball, games are to tight and techincals are momentum killing.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by BU RICK
        I hope the reason is we are going to have an attack beast of a team on the floor next year with DC, AT, and WE. If DC had a few good games like YKW, he'd be gone. I think it's in his best interests that he stay in school. Remember that Memphis team that beat us in the S16, they just kept jamming over us. We could be Bradley, slamma, jamma next year with the other great players that are gonna be back.
        It all fits together now! JL is keeping DC on the bench so that he doesn't go pro after his junior year. JL got burned by POB and doesn't want it to happen again!!

        I do think DC is going to be an impact player next year. Send him to a big man's camp over the summer. Once he gets the fundamentals programmed into his muscle memory, his upside will be huge.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by BU RICK
          I hope the reason is we are going to have an attack beast of a team on the floor next year with DC, AT, and WE. If DC had a few good games like YKW, he'd be gone. I think it's in his best interests that he stay in school. Remember that Memphis team that beat us in the S16, they just kept jamming over us. We could be Bradley, slamma, jamma next year with the other great players that are gonna be back.
          Are you actually trying to imply that the reason David Collins isn't playing more minutes this year is because if he did, he would be so impressive that he would end up leaving early for the NBA draft and be selected as a lottery pick like PO'B???? Is that really what you think? Wow.
          I hope that DC can develop into the type of player that can give us some decent minutes next year as a senior...but if anyone is really expecting him to be a "beast" next year or to magically turn into an NBA prospect, I think you are setting yourself up to be very disappointed.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by BU RICK
            I hope the reason is we are going to have an attack beast of a team on the floor next year with DC, AT, and WE. If DC had a few good games like YKW, he'd be gone. I think it's in his best interests that he stay in school. Remember that Memphis team that beat us in the S16, they just kept jamming over us. We could be Bradley, slamma, jamma next year with the other great players that are gonna be back.
            Game, Set, Match.
            Get Well Massive Mike! "Once a Brave always a Brave!"

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            • #96
              Originally posted by BradleyBrave View Post
              FWIW, I don't think it's really fair to judge DC on 2 minutes at the end of a half. The kid has barely played in the last month and a half. Coming in and immediately having an impact when we're working for good shots in the final minutes isn't exactly the easiest thing to do. I'm not advocating playing him big minutes right now or anything, but I think you'd see more production if he got 8-10 straight game minutes and a few sets ran for him.
              from what I understand practices are not much better then games for DC

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              • #97
                Are we talkin' 'bout practice?

                A real fan celebrates the successes, but also acknowledges the failures of his team.

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                • #98
                  I'm sorry.............but whats AI talk'n about?

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                  • #99
                    Beasts

                    Originally posted by BU RICK
                    I hope the reason is we are going to have an attack beast of a team on the floor next year with DC, AT, and WE. If DC had a few good games like YKW, he'd be gone. I think it's in his best interests that he stay in school. Remember that Memphis team that beat us in the S16, they just kept jamming over us. We could be Bradley, slamma, jamma next year with the other great players that are gonna be back.
                    Not gonna happen playing 3 or 4 guards for most of the game. It's going to take a major change of coaching philosophy by JL. Otherwise, it's going to be DC, SS, RA, WE and AT rotating and fighting for sparse minutes at the 5 spot.

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                    • Multiple bigs do not look good in a future Jim Les coached team...



                      However, if WE lives up to his inside/outside potential then I think it is more likely he is a 4 (or even 3? since Jim mentioned AT as a distant future 4)

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                      • Originally posted by ph View Post
                        Multiple bigs do not look good in a future Jim Les coached team...



                        However, if WE lives up to his inside/outside potential then I think it is more likely he is a 4 (or even 3? since Jim mentioned AT as a distant future 4)
                        I think either Reynolds had read what I had posted or he was having some similar thoughts. Again I wince when coaches get hung up on "systems". What rule says that once you declare an offense or defense as your "system" that you have to ride it exactly without any modification, variation, or even abandon it when called for. A good coach should be able to adapt. As for someone comparing Salley to Mike Williams...not even close. That's like comparing Andrew Warren to Hersey Hawkins. I would wonder what we would do now if we had a Mike Williams--play him 7 minutes a game if at all?

                        We can still put up points with the offense, but it has weaknesses in terms of how the line up is constructed in terms of defense and rebounding. And, if we didn't go so small, the offense would be even better. And, if we incroporated some occassional strong-side posts rather than keeping the lone 5 on the weakside for spacing almost all the time unless when ball screening, we would do better. And lastly, we would do better if we had another big guy in there as a presence to help out when the other rotates up top for ball screens.

                        However, someone would rather play three guys at 5'10" at the sametime. My favorite quote from last game, that could be chalked up to the influence of the fever was, "We went small because they went small and I thought we matched up better going zone in the second half..." Oh, the irony and self-contradiction of that statement...you could cut it with a knife.

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