BU- Missouri State Postgame

[Scouter]

Seems like some gripe because we have players who are too passive, then others gripe when we win a game and a few flares of fiery behavior by players.
I'll take the latter every time.........There is a good reason MS is getting the playing time and passive players are not.

"Fiery behavior" shouldn't have to include forearm shoves and trash talking other players that earn you technical fouls.

[Guinness]

There was a blurb about us in the Red Eye this morning!

[thefish7]

Ok, I'm lost.

I'm going to bed. The frozen roads home with a couple jars now... forgeddaboudit.

Fish - if you are going to St Louis, please let me buy you a jar at McGurks.

Heheh, a drake is a male duck, was what I was getting at.

[ER3]

I COULD NOT AGREE WITH YOU MORE. Aggresive play is what I want to see. I'm not talking about fists or elbows to the head - no. Getting a T for a forearm to chest or back?, I guess that's the refs call, right or wrong. Basketball is a physical game, so keep playing the same way Matt.

I'm a Bradley fan 1st and an Illini fan 2nd. If any of you remember the Illinois vs UNC NCAA championship game you will remember Shawn May knocking over player after player to get to the basket, and no fouls were called?? Illinois got screwed big time in that game by the refs not making the obvious calls. Illinois should have been the NCAA Champion.

Keep playing the same way Matt!

I COULD NOT AGREE WITH YOU LESS.
Being aggressive...in terms of: going hard after rebounds, committing hard fouls to stop easy scores, diving on the floor for loose balls...those are all examples a smart, physical, aggressive play....and I don't have a problem with Salley or any other Brave being aggressive in those forms. There are a million ways to be physical in the game of basketball that don't result in technical fouls that selfishly hurt your team.
Getting T'd up because you think it's really cool to stand over a guy you just fouled and talk smack to him, getting T'd up because you think it "restores your toughness" when you throw a forearm at a guy simply because you were so weak with the ball on a rebound and allowed a 6' guard to take it from you...those are not tough, aggressive, physical plays...those are weak, selfish, immature plays...period.
Salley does play with some fire and that helps him defend and rebound better than any of the other bigs we have...but this whole immature, macho thing that simply won't allow him to avoid stupid technical fouls that hurt this team should not be acceptable from a 22-yr old senior "leader" on this team.

[Scouter]

Your nuts.

Why? Because he's sick of Salley getting dumb technicals?

[MacabreMob]

I COULD NOT AGREE WITH YOU MORE. Aggresive play is what I want to see. I'm not talking about fists or elbows to the head - no. Getting a T for a forearm to chest or back?, I guess that's the refs call, right or wrong. Basketball is a physical game, so keep playing the same way Matt.

I'm a Bradley fan 1st and an Illini fan 2nd. If any of you remember the Illinois vs UNC NCAA championship game you will remember Shawn May knocking over player after player to get to the basket, and no fouls were called?? Illinois got screwed big time in that game by the refs not making the obvious calls. Illinois should have been the NCAA Champion.

Keep playing the same way Matt!

BU Rick - the obvious calls missed ALL SEASON AND in the Championship game were all the ILLEGAL MOVING SCREENS UIUC used to get their shooters open.

[BUconnorD]

A honk is someone who drinks ridiculous amounts of Kool-Aid. Many honks can be found on this board (not that there's anything wrong with that).

In response to another one of your posts, Salley didn't get a T last night for standing over someone and jawing at them. But he did at the ISU game, which was just about as dumb as shoving someone in the chest. I don't have a problem with Salley (or anyone) playing aggressively. I just have an issue with him picking up technicals for stupid overreations.

Also, you still haven't answered why I should move to Canada.

The last thing i want to do is justify MS's Technical, but to be fair...they had a triple team on him and they were getting in his face. Trust me I was right there in the front row of the student section. While yes it was dumb for him to do, he was getting fouled...and the refs didn't call it. AND on top of that...he had passed to Ruff and one of the guys was still gettin in his face.

While it was dumb...it was not uncalled for.
his T at the ISU game...THAT was dumb...AND uncalled for
that move alone should have benched him for the next game
but no JL keeps his massive man crush on MS
and keeps DC in the dog house for a game that happened in DECEMBER

[SFP]

They never got their flu shots?

Flu shots are recommended for the very young, very old or the weak and that I believe should rule out the players.

I liked that JL went into a zone because it showed them that it needs a lot of work. Let's just hope in the 2nd 1/2 that the team was already looking forward to Saturday's game. Here's to some great spirited practices from the team.

On MS I like his fire but it needs to be under control. He is not our best offensive post player because he should be playing the 4. I like it when he faces up with some space and drives in. He can not for his life catch or finish a DR pass for a point blank. Do we need him to play YES would I like to see more minutes go to SS YES! Then we could have him play the 4 and move TW to the 3 occasionaly.

I think what Les sees in MS is Big Mike Williams. I only wish he could finish around the basket like him.

[Scouter]

Not gonna go that route, because it is a sad story. You stay right where you are. Canada is a great country and a great ally of ours. We are friends and allways will be. Enjoy reading your posts Scouter. Just don't agree with the forearm.

What exactly do you disagree with?

[Scouter]

The forearm thing you seem to be sooo upset about. I don't disagree about anything our country does. So what.

I'm upset about becuase it's another in a series of stupid technical fouls committed by Salley where he let his temper get the best of him.

Also see: T'd up for standing over someone and trash talking vs. ISU, and T'd up for slamming the ball after a call against ... InSu?

I like Salley because he's the most solid, reliable big man we have. I don't like that his temper could end up costing us in a game down the road.

[SFP]

I'm upset about becuase it's another in a series of stupid technical fouls committed by Salley where he let his temper get the best of him.

Also see: T'd up for standing over someone and trash talking vs. ISU, and T'd up for slamming the ball after a call against ... InSu?

I like Salley because he's the most solid, reliable big man we have. I don't like that his temper could end up costing us in a game down the road.

Reading through the thread I believe we all agree that MS needs to keep his agressive play under control a bit and we all like it that he has a lot of fire. T's are never good unless it's the coach trying to prove a point. It is never in a team intrest to have a player T'ed up.

[BUBraves06]

Reading through the thread I believe we all agree that MS needs to keep his agressive play under control a bit and we all like it that he has a lot of fire. T's are never good unless it's the coach trying to prove a point. It is never in a team intrest to have a player Ted up.

Well obviously not everyone does, and certain people are basically saying it's ok to give away free points because hey that's just Matt Salley being aggressive. Gimme a break.

[Rusty 54]

While it was dumb...it was not uncalled for.
his T at the ISU game...THAT was dumb...AND uncalled for
that move alone should have benched him for the next game
but no JL keeps his massive man crush on MS
and keeps DC in the dog house for a game that happened in DECEMBER

While I liked the physical presence MS brought on that play, I didn't like the T. But I don't understand how you could lobby for more minutes for DC after yesterdays game. He got a pass thrown to him and he ducked. This is not dodgeball. I have nothing against him but he is not ready to play at this level yet.

[Scouter]

While I liked the physical presence MS brought on that play, I didn't like the T. But I don't understand how you could lobby for more minutes for DC after yesterdays game. He got a pass thrown to him and he ducked. This is not dodgeball. I have nothing against him but he is not ready to play at this level yet.

I was a big proponent early in the season for DC to get more playing time, but boy was I wrong. He looked clueless last night when that pass was thrown to him.

[BradleyBrave]

I was a big proponent early in the season for DC to get more playing time, but boy was I wrong. He looked clueless last night when that pass was thrown to him.

FWIW, I don't think it's really fair to judge DC on 2 minutes at the end of a half. The kid has barely played in the last month and a half. Coming in and immediately having an impact when we're working for good shots in the final minutes isn't exactly the easiest thing to do. I'm not advocating playing him big minutes right now or anything, but I think you'd see more production if he got 8-10 straight game minutes and a few sets ran for him.