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  • Yes, room for optimism but issues still there...

    Yes, as the board discussions are revealing lately, there is a return to optimism with the return of Daniel, but there are still issues that need addressing. (1) Defense--seems to be improving, but that may be due to two things--Daniel's return and the quality of teams played of late; Evansville is no juggernaut by any stretch of the imagination. (2) But most of all, an inside game on both sides of the ball.

    Yes, Austin is actually getting played (I think many of us think the game was pretty much there to begin with, he just needed time--to not only develop in practice, but to actually see minutes. Salley is getting more energized, seemingly by the presence of Austin--the two together look good. However, that is "an," if not "the" issue--why cannot two or more true inside players be on the floor at the same time for any length of time if at all? Again, we have to love Theron's athleticism and effort, but he is a small forward, and even CB and FB noted on TV how Crouch winds up guarding the post (although it was a compliment to JC when it should have been pointed out as a question). Without going on about it, since many if not most of us here have noted these issues time and time again--playing so small is a liability, not a strength and the logic of coaching to gain match-up differences seems not to hold up under the circumstances. Going with four guards, with three of them 5'10 to 5'11" is, well, it speaks for itself.

    Trust me, as I mentioned earlier in the seasom, I love how that offense works at times--especially last year--it can look like the way basketball should be played from a finesse view--passing, shooting, spacing, movement--almost aesthetic in appearance as when aspects of a sport are executed to perfection. However, there in lies the rub--we are in an era of physical play, and the offense requires excellent execution and shooting. There, almost by definition, I can see the logic of guard emphasis--passing and shooting. However, when players are off and/or the team is mismatched against a tough defensive foe, there is not a balance there and one "is left with only one barrel." The excellent play of Daniel to create in the face of tight defense can and has bailed us out, but it would be so more beneficially balanced to utilize more post action in the offense. Also, the advantages of our guard oriented line-up have been, as our numerous experieces have demonstrated, negated by on the other end of the floor by by bad rebounding and interior defense. At best, our approach often is a wash and not a gain. Utilizing even the slighest larger line-up would, for more then a few mnutes here and there, give the team the opportunity to address, from a physical standpoint, what are our extremely glaring weaknesses--poor rebounding, poor interior defense, and unbalanced offense. (Note to observations of media--a few pick and rolls and benefitting from improved penetrations does not make for a true, consistent inside option that keeps defenses honest and takes the load off of the guards).

    With all that being said, yes, we can be back on track to being the team we were at the start--almost taking MSU and Vandy. Even though we must admit that we have not been playing high-level caliber competition of late. At that level of play, we could win the MVC tourney, and even have an out-side shot (no pun intended when if first typed it, but now, after realizing it, yes ) at one or two wins in the NCAA or a nice NIT run. However, I think the obvious is being neglected at this stage of the season. It is my hope and desire that there is more to what we are seeing than we know, and that things will progress to address what we all seem to know, becuase there is hugh potential there to take this team to the next level--whether that is an NIT run, a sweet 16 repeat, or even something better. That is what has troubled some of us here--the potential is there, but not realized.
    Last edited by Guest; 02-04-2008, 03:56 PM.

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    I don't share your pessimism.
    I see this team now reaching it's potential, just as expected, with the only detour being the Daniel Ruffin injury. I think the coaches have done a marvelous job getting contributions from freshmen and several jucos, as well as the returning guys, and anyone can see they are playing with great confidence now.

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    • #3
      I don't either, I just bought two more all-session packages for the Valley Tourney,
      as I think when the time comes, we will be the team making noise.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Da Coach View Post
        I don't share your pessimism.
        I see this team now reaching it's potential, just as expected, with the only detour being the Daniel Ruffin injury. I think the coaches have done a marvelous job getting contributions from freshmen and several jucos, as well as the returning guys, and anyone can see they are playing with great confidence now.

        I know it was one of my somewhat long posts, but did you guys read it ? It was balanced, not pessimistic. Simply put, we can be good, but we can be better.

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        • #5
          I think we could have done a better job with our bigs early on, and think our defense and rebounding was unacceptably bad when Ruffin was out. However, there's no use looking back at this point. We are healthy, and we have finally figured out who to play and when to play 'em. I think we're the most talented team in the league (for the 2nd time in 3 years), and there's no reason why we can't be the team that decides who goes to the NCAA Tournament from the MVC.
          Onward and Upward!

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          • #6
            I liked ghunts rant and to me it was more of guarded optimism not pessimistic. The glass is 1/2 full. I also feel that we still need to improve our offensive inside game. For a guard oriented team we do a poor job of getting the ball inside unless it's DR griving and dishing or pick and roll. The good thing is that we seem to be still getting better every game and should be peaking in March.
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            • #7
              I think he has a point. We've had some cupcakes lately and we haven't really been tested. I think the team is stronger for having to go without Ruffin but he is the center of the team. Ruff seems to be better post-hernia than pre-hernia too. Our first real test since our losing streak will be at ISU, with Creighton and Drake soon after.

              While the Ruffin injury was a setback, I dont think some of the new guys would have improved like they have if he didnt have his hernia.

              We'll know soon.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by SanFranciscoPete View Post
                I liked ghunts rant....The good thing is that we seem to be still getting better every game and should be peaking in March.
                Rant? I thought it was more like an essay You wouldn't want to be around me when I rant :-) I am hopeful--I have seen more than one team put it together down the stretch--often through players "getting it" or developing (Versace's '79-'80 and '81-'82 team, Molinary's '92-'93 team, leading into the '93-'94 team, Jeff Rabey and that squad, Les' '05-'06 team with POB developing and getting minutes, Franklin showing, and espcially Marcellus learning to play within himself playing to his strength as a D-I power forward rather than trying to show himself as an NBA small forward). This time around, I believe part of the puzzle involves some "getting it" from the bench. It happened last year prior to the season, hopefully it happens toward the end of this one. If that happens, we could easily be in for another fun ride :-)

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                • #9
                  I think your two points of concern, defense and an inside game, would get talked about more on here if there were other teams in the Valley to exploit this. There isn't a high powered offense machine or dominant big team in the Valley. Ruffin tends to mask a lot of the problems that the Braves have.

                  There isn't a Creighton or SIU of the past that I fear this BU team running into. They now have just as good of shot as any of the teams in St. Louis.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by it's boogie time View Post
                    I think your two points of concern, defense and an inside game, would get talked about more on here if there were other teams in the Valley to exploit this. There isn't a high powered offense machine or dominant big team in the Valley. Ruffin tends to mask a lot of the problems that the Braves have.

                    There isn't a Creighton or SIU of the past that I fear this BU team running into. They now have just as good of shot as any of the teams in St. Louis.
                    I would say the emphasis would be on the "next level" aspect--i.e, competing against the likes of MSU and Vandy. Just because we can get by and win against certain teams isn't enough when the goal is to maximize the overall potential of the team. It's a "last piece of the puzzle thing" whereby if it just clicks into place....

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                    • #11
                      The next level of teams is a big concern. However, being that it is going to be at least a month until that might play out, I don't think many people are looking that far ahead. Maybe if we got matched up against a big rebounding team in the Brackbuster, the subject would come to light, but that doesn't look to be the case.

                      I guess I've conditioned myself not to expect great defense or good interior play. Just enough to get by. I don't see any of the big guys developing this late in the season to become a threat on the inside against big teams. Maybe next year.

                      I do think that this team has developed over the season, just not in the two areas talked about.
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