1/26 MVC standings.....RPI....

[shaunguth]

RPI......http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_mvc_Men.html

______________Valley___Home___Away____All___
Drake.................9-0........5-0.......4-0......18-1
Illinois State........6-2........4-0.......2-2......14-5
Indiana State.......5-3........4-0.......1-3......10-8
Creighton............5-4........2-2.......3-2......13-6
Southern Illinois....5-4........4-0.......1-4......10-10
Northern Iowa......4-5........2-2.......2-3......12-8
Missouri State......4-5........4-1.......0-4......11-10
Bradley..............4-5.......2-3.......2-2......11-10
Wichita State.......1-8........0-5.......1-3........8-12
Evansville............1-8........1-3. .....0-5.. .....6-13

[walkon]

Isn't Wichita State 1-8?

[shaunguth]

Isn't Wichita State 1-8?

Sorry about that. Fixed.

[walkon]

I like the fact that Bradley is only a game and a half out of third place, close to where we were picked. I see no reason why this is would not be a realistic goal at this point half way through the valley season, especially now that they are at full strength.

[shaunguth]

We are also one of five teams that have more than one road win!

[houstontxbrave]

good win tonight, this all comes down to what we do at home and if we can sweep Indy state and win at Eville. If we play to our potential we will avoid the play in and if the happens then we have as much chance as anyone of winning the conference tourney.

After seeing CU, SIU, Drake, UNI us and WSU, tonight there is no team better then us. Drake is living 9 lives right now. UNI had them beat. CU and SIU set our conference back 10 years after that performance tonight.

[shaunguth]

good win tonight, this all comes down to what we do at home and if we can sweep Indy state and win at Eville. If we play to our potential we will avoid the play in and if the happens then we have as much chance as anyone of winning the conference tourney.

After seeing CU, SIU, Drake, UNI us and WSU, tonight there is no team better then us. Drake is living 9 lives right now. UNI had them beat. CU and SIU set our conference back 10 years after that performance tonight.

I said the same thing outloud! "Is this game really on ESPN2?"

[tornado]

I like the standings more like this.......



______________Valley___Home___Away____All___
Drake.................9-0........5-0.......4-0......18-1
Illinois State........6-2........4-0.......2-2......14-5
Indiana State.......5-3........4-0.......1-3......10-8
Creighton............5-4........2-2.......3-2......13-6
Southern Illinois....5-4........4-0.......1-4......10-10
Bradley..............4-5.......2-3.......2-2......11-10
Northern Iowa......4-5........2-2.......2-3......12-8
Missouri State......4-5........4-1.......0-4......11-10
Wichita State.......1-8........0-5.......1-3........8-12
Evansville............1-8........1-3. .....0-5.. .....6-13

[Da Coach]

Wow, Bradley moved up 2 more places overnight! Now they are out of the Friday game!

[DUBrave5]

Say hypothetically the season were to end today after the ISU vs. ISU game? How are tie-breakers determined in the Valley? With the whole mess that exists in between 7th and 3rd place, especially if Illinois St. beats Indiana St., I can't help but feel that there could be a couple of ties that might even determine who plays on Thursday. I am hoping that we can keep this streak of ours going so we dont have to worry about this, but seeing the stats it just got me thinking.

[Da Coach]

It is a complicated tiebreaker system that the MVC uses that involves points for each win at home and away.

It's too much to explain, here it is--

http://www.mvc-sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=7600&KEY=&ATCLID=274386&SPID=2901&SPSID=41239

Copied from the MVC site--
Men's and Women's Basketball Tournament Tiebreaker

Regular-season standings are the determining factor in setting first-round pairings for the State Farm Missouri Valley Conference Tournament. The tie-breaking system for seeding of the State Farm Missouri Valley Conference Tournament, regardless of whether a tie involves two or more teams, will utilize the following factors, in order, until all ties are broken.
Two-way Ties
Records in head-to-head competition are compared, with the higher seed going to the team that has won the most games against the other.
If head-to-head competition does not break the tie, the deadlock will be broken by a power-rating system, using league games. The team among the tying institutions with the better point total will receive the higher seed.
In the event the tie cannot be broken, the seeding shall be determined by a coin toss.
Multiple Ties
If three or more teams are tied, regular-season competition among the tied schools shall be pooled into a "mini round-robin." Teams shall be ranked according to their position in such a round- robin.
In the event this process does not solve the multiple ties, the deadlock will be broken by a power-rating system, using league games. The team among the tying institutions with the better point total will receive the higher seed.
In the event this process does not resolve the ties, a coin toss will be the final alternative.
POWER-RATING SYSTEM League Win Road Home
vs. 1st-Place Team 20 Points 19 Points
vs. 2nd-Place Team 18 Points 17 Points
vs. 3rd-Place Team 16 Points 15 Points
vs. 4th-Place Team 14 Points 13 Points
vs. 5th-Place Team 12 Points 11 Points
vs. 6th-Place Team 10 Points 9 Points
vs. 7th-Place Team 8 Points 7 Points
vs. 8th-Place Team 6 Points 5 Points
vs. 9th-Place Team 4 Points 3 Points
vs. 10th-Place Team 2 Points 1 Points

Note: If there is a tie in the standings, a team??™s record against the combined tied teams is used. (if Team A and Team B tie for first place, a road win against Team A or Team B will be worth 19 points and a home win vs. Team A or Team B will be worth 18 points.)

[BUBraves2006]

I ran the numbers as they stand right now (again these change after every single game, so even the ISU v. ISU game will change these)

Bradley has 34 tiebreaker points, Northern Iowa has 26 and Missouri State has 40.

Missouri State's points will actually drop to 38 though if Indiana State loses today, as the Sycamores will be in a tie for fourth place, not all alone in third.

As DC said, it's really complicated!

I've put the information in a spreadsheet if people want regular updates on this stuff. Let me know.

[DUBrave5]

Wow didn't realize it was so complicated. Thanks for the info.

[shaunguth]

I like the standings more like this.......



______________Valley___Home___Away____All___
Drake.................9-0........5-0.......4-0......18-1
Illinois State........6-2........4-0.......2-2......14-5
Indiana State.......5-3........4-0.......1-3......10-8
Creighton............5-4........2-2.......3-2......13-6
Southern Illinois....5-4........4-0.......1-4......10-10
Bradley..............4-5.......2-3.......2-2......11-10
Northern Iowa......4-5........2-2.......2-3......12-8
Missouri State......4-5........4-1.......0-4......11-10
Wichita State.......1-8........0-5.......1-3........8-12
Evansville............1-8........1-3. .....0-5.. .....6-13

I listed the standings according to overall record and then the fact that Missouri State has already beaten us.

[shaunguth]

I ran the numbers as they stand right now (again these change after every single game, so even the ISU v. ISU game will change these)

Bradley has 34 tiebreaker points, Northern Iowa has 26 and Missouri State has 40.

Missouri State's points will actually drop to 38 though if Indiana State loses today, as the Sycamores will be in a tie for fourth place, not all alone in third.

As DC said, it's really complicated!

I've put the information in a spreadsheet if people want regular updates on this stuff. Let me know.

As often as humanly possible. Thanks for the info!