Implications for next season?

[ER3]

Let me ask you something Basketball Nut, who has BU lost to this year by anywhere near 30 points when Egolf and Collins have played more than 5 minutes a piece. In fact, what is BU's record this year when those 2 have been in the rotation VS. when they have not. I'm not saying they put up great numbers, but the team was winning. What is so risky about trying that again? We've got nothing happening right now, can't get much worse than a 1-5 start to the conference season. What would be lost on trying to play that 8-9 man rotation that we were winning with earlier in the season?

The problem with this part of your argument is that Collins and Egolf were getting minutes at a time in our schedule when A) Daniel Ruffin was playing, and B) when we happened to be getting a bunch of wins against some pretty lousy teams. So, I don't think it is fair to conclude that the reason we have a winning record in those games can be directly attributed to the fact that DC and WE were playing. And I also don't think that if Egolf and Collins were still in the rotation that it would have made a bit of difference in BU's record since Ruffin went out.
I do support the idea of getting them some minutes here and there, though. I just don't want them to get completely buried and lose all of their confidence heading into next year...

[dogsrus]

Let me ask you something Basketball Nut, who has BU lost to this year by anywhere near 30 points when Egolf and Collins have played more than 5 minutes a piece. In fact, what is BU's record this year when those 2 have been in the rotation VS. when they have not. I'm not saying they put up great numbers, but the team was winning. What is so risky about trying that again? We've got nothing happening right now, can't get much worse than a 1-5 start to the conference season. What would be lost on trying to play that 8-9 man rotation that we were winning with earlier in the season?

I have to agree.....I know its easy for fans to think the answer is playing guys on the bench but I don't think thats what many are saying. GO back to playing 9-10 guys....providing rest for starters and experience for those deeper in the rotation. We STILL may be 1 and whatever but at this point I don't think we have anything to lose.

Theron Wilson had 8 turnovers the other game and JL stuck with him.....I'm glad he did but why not give WE and DC the same chances? Certainly not anywhere near the same minutes but 4-6 mintes a game isn't unreasonable IMO.

[basketball nut]

I have to agree.....I know its easy for fans to think the answer is playing guys on the bench but I don't think thats what many are saying. GO back to playing 9-10 guys....providing rest for starters and experience for those deeper in the rotation. We STILL may be 1 and whatever but at this point I don't think we have anything to lose.

Theron Wilson had 8 turnovers the other game and JL stuck with him.....I'm glad he did but why not give WE and DC the same chances? Certainly not anywhere near the same minutes but 4-6 mintes a game isn't unreasonable IMO.

Now you are talking when you mention 4-6 minutes a game and maybe even 8-10 for WE especially if you start to work him in the middle a little more but 6-10 minutes is a far cry from 20+ that was mentioned before. I realize he hasn't shot the ball real well but w/ some practice in the middle he may come up w/ a nice 10-12 foot jumper around the free throw line.
I also agree that you have to start looking at the line up when you have 2 guys come up w/ 3/4 of your turnovers and see if maybe you havwew a better ball handler then TW at the end of the game. Maybe at this point you even consider Lavin as one of your ball handlers as he doesn't seem to bad when he gets some scrap minutes at the end of the game.

[Dubl R 1]

The problem with this part of your argument is that Collins and Egolf were getting minutes at a time in our schedule when A) Daniel Ruffin was playing, and B) when we happened to be getting a bunch of wins against some pretty lousy teams. So, I don't think it is fair to conclude that the reason we have a winning record in those games can be directly attributed to the fact that DC and WE were playing. And I also don't think that if Egolf and Collins were still in the rotation that it would have made a bit of difference in BU's record since Ruffin went out.
I do support the idea of getting them some minutes here and there, though. I just don't want them to get completely buried and lose all of their confidence heading into next year...

They can't be gaining any confidence sitting on the bench and now we are losing to some pretty lousy teams instead of beating them. Northern Iowa and Wichita were both terrible. Also when those guys were playing, our team looked much fresher in the second half and at the end of the game as we were not playing only 7 players. I know Ruff was there, and that's a huge difference. What I'm saying is I don't know what the staff is afraid of with regards to playing these guys some minutes, because what we are doing now obviously isn't working. I don't have the answers, I just don't think it's such an absurd idea to actually try and play the players we recruited at thier respective positions, especially when the team had some success with it before.

[ph]

I have to agree.....I know its easy for fans to think the answer is playing guys on the bench but I don't think thats what many are saying. GO back to playing 9-10 guys....providing rest for starters and experience for those deeper in the rotation. We STILL may be 1 and whatever but at this point I don't think we have anything to lose.

Theron Wilson had 8 turnovers the other game and JL stuck with him.....I'm glad he did but why not give WE and DC the same chances? Certainly not anywhere near the same minutes but 4-6 mintes a game isn't unreasonable IMO.

We would get much more rest for the 4 guard starters by playing MS or RA at the 4 when TW is resting. That is only adding 1 guy into the rotation.

But we would not want to do that, as that big rotation has only been used 2 times in the last 9 games -- Those pesky W's that mess up our clean looking L streak.

[tornado]

What we really need is for everyone, the Blue Ribbon Preseason Basketball Magazine, the coaches preseason vote, and all the people on the message boards to predict that Bradley will have nothing and will finish dead last in the Valley.
Then when they do OK, or hang around .500, we won't have a lot of griping, and everyone will be happy...

[ER3]

What we really need is for everyone, the Blue Ribbon Preseason Basketball Magazine, the coaches preseason vote, and all the people on the message boards to predict that Bradley will have nothing and will finish dead last in the Valley.
Then when they do OK, or hang around .500, we won't have a lot of griping, and everyone will be happy...

That's pretty much what happened last year...and it ended up being one of my favorite BU teams to watch. It's really tough to be disappointed about anything when you have no expectations...