BIG Men Analysis - David Collins Must Play More!!!

[bu fan 9]

The only reason TCS is getting playing time is to give the guards a rest.When Ruff comes back TCS will not see the floor much.

[basketball nut]

Numbers. numbers, numbers-this seems to be something that a lot of you like to look at but they are very flawed numbers. 1st off the more you play the more likely that your numbers are going to go down so, as far as I am concerned, these numbers you guys keep talking about are very flawed. In your system we should look at Lavin & Phillips numbers as they may even be more spectacular at they haven't played very many minutes and have had a few baskets, rebounds and assists so maybe we should take their totals into consideration also and w/ your point system they may be the best players on the team. My point is the numbers look good but the longer you play the more those numbers are going to go down. If you want to show me real numbers then show me how many points a guy allowed because they were out position, or how many turnovers that a player caused because they didn't catch the ball that was thrown to them or how about the rebounds that were taken out of their hands before they got rid of the ball or how many balls the player threw away because of a weak pass.
I could go on and on about these kind of numbers but the real issue isn't those numbers but what the player does when he is in the game and, has been posted before, we have players and one in partuclar that many question why he doesn't play. If you had the numbers to the stats that I psoted above I believe it wouldn't take long to see why. DC has very weak hands, plays out of position and has many of his rebounds taken out of his hands when he brings the ball down to throw a pass and often when he does get the pass off it is very weak and gets intercepted. I could go on about why he isn't in the game but if you are watching the same game I am it would not take long to realize the answer to your own question. As was posted by several others DC is soft and until that changes you will not see him play a lot

[bu fan 9]

Good post Basketball Nut.

[Dallas Brave]

Numbers. numbers, numbers-this seems to be something that a lot of you like to look at but they are very flawed numbers. 1st off the more you play the more likely that your numbers are going to go down so, as far as I am concerned, these numbers you guys keep talking about are very flawed. In your system we should look at Lavin & Phillips numbers as they may even be more spectacular at they haven't played very many minutes and have had a few baskets, rebounds and assists so maybe we should take their totals into consideration also and w/ your point system they may be the best players on the team. My point is the numbers look good but the longer you play the more those numbers are going to go down. If you want to show me real numbers then show me how many points a guy allowed because they were out position, or how many turnovers that a player caused because they didn't catch the ball that was thrown to them or how about the rebounds that were taken out of their hands before they got rid of the ball or how many balls the player threw away because of a weak pass.
I could go on and on about these kind of numbers but the real issue isn't those numbers but what the player does when he is in the game and, has been posted before, we have players and one in partuclar that many question why he doesn't play. If you had the numbers to the stats that I psoted above I believe it wouldn't take long to see why. DC has very weak hands, plays out of position and has many of his rebounds taken out of his hands when he brings the ball down to throw a pass and often when he does get the pass off it is very weak and gets intercepted. I could go on about why he isn't in the game but if you are watching the same game I am it would not take long to realize the answer to your own question. As was posted by several others DC is soft and until that changes you will not see him play a lot

Sure statistics can be misused, but most well-managed sports team keep them to analyze them in meaningful ways. I am curious as to who keeps and runs the analysis on BU's stats.

With DC, there have been enough games with a decent distribution of his time played to draw fairly reliable indicators.

What do you think of this statistic? Team record is 0-6 since David has been benched?

[bu fan 9]

The team is 0 and 6 since Ruff got hurt.

[Dallas Brave]

The team is 0 and 6 since Ruff got hurt.

No. They are 1-6 since Ruff got hurt. Ruff played hurt for the Wright State game. He played a lot of minutes (36), but at a much lower level (1-5 shooting, 5 assists, 5 turnovers). That was also the last game DC played meaningful minutes (17). David went 3-4 from the field and had seven rebounds. The result. BU beat Wright State on the road, the only team to have defeated Butler this year.

[shaunguth]

Numbers. numbers, numbers-this seems to be something that a lot of you like to look at but they are very flawed numbers. 1st off the more you play the more likely that your numbers are going to go down so, as far as I am concerned, these numbers you guys keep talking about are very flawed. In your system we should look at Lavin & Phillips numbers as they may even be more spectacular at they haven't played very many minutes and have had a few baskets, rebounds and assists so maybe we should take their totals into consideration also and w/ your point system they may be the best players on the team. My point is the numbers look good but the longer you play the more those numbers are going to go down. If you want to show me real numbers then show me how many points a guy allowed because they were out position, or how many turnovers that a player caused because they didn't catch the ball that was thrown to them or how about the rebounds that were taken out of their hands before they got rid of the ball or how many balls the player threw away because of a weak pass.
I could go on and on about these kind of numbers but the real issue isn't those numbers but what the player does when he is in the game and, has been posted before, we have players and one in partuclar that many question why he doesn't play. If you had the numbers to the stats that I psoted above I believe it wouldn't take long to see why. DC has very weak hands, plays out of position and has many of his rebounds taken out of his hands when he brings the ball down to throw a pass and often when he does get the pass off it is very weak and gets intercepted. I could go on about why he isn't in the game but if you are watching the same game I am it would not take long to realize the answer to your own question. As was posted by several others DC is soft and until that changes you will not see him play a lot

I'm not sure what numbers you're talking about, but why would you include anyone that has seen 5-6 minutes over 15 games? Obviously, any "numbers" are going to come down over time, but I don't think DC's scoring/rebounding average would be less than 6 and 6 if you doubled his minutes.

[basketball nut]

I'm not sure what numbers you're talking about, but why would you include anyone that has seen 5-6 minutes over 15 games? Obviously, any "numbers" are going to come down over time, but I don't think DC's scoring/rebounding average would be less than 6 and 6 if you doubled his minutes.

Not trying to get anything started and I would agree w/ you on his numbers but my main issue is how many points would he have allowed w/ bad, out of position defense along w/ the turnovers caused, either directly or indirectly, by bad hands. If he had the hands and could play just a little psoitional defense he would be playing the minutes that you really think he should. MS would be seeing a lot less time.